Comments on: Why no law school? http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/ Guyana News, Sports, Businesss and Entertainment Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:03:53 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mark http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-31703 mark Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:59:47 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-31703 I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME THAT WE REALLY BEG THE GOVERNMENT TO ESTABLISH A LAW SHOOL HERE... I THINK TO AN EXTENT IT IS A BOOST TOURISM SINCE PEOPLE WILL COME HERE INSTEAD OF TRINIDAD.... I SUPORT THE READER'S VIEW I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME THAT WE REALLY BEG THE GOVERNMENT TO ESTABLISH A LAW SHOOL HERE… I THINK TO AN EXTENT IT IS A BOOST TOURISM SINCE PEOPLE WILL COME HERE INSTEAD OF TRINIDAD…. I SUPORT THE READER’S VIEW

]]> By: drumup_change http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-21359 drumup_change Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:29:53 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-21359 ....................remember the story with the dog and it's shadow................a want all......... no change in sight..........the poor can only get help if we do and talk to expose the ills.........you cannot leave school in America unless you compleat math and science....................Q-basic is the simplest of all language and should be taught in all high schools...............so it gives you a feel of anyother language...................the law department can be put to right in a present day setting ......................assembly halls...................a good law library fully wired with four good servers and accessable at all times for studies with home access............ ………………..remember the story with the dog and it’s shadow…………….a want all……… no change in sight……….the poor can only get help if we do and talk to expose the ills………you cannot leave school in America unless you compleat math and science………………..Q-basic is the simplest of all language and should be taught in all high schools……………so it gives you a feel of anyother language……………….the law department can be put to right in a present day setting ………………….assembly halls……………….a good law library fully wired with four good servers and accessable at all times for studies with home access…………

]]> By: drumup_change http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-21081 drumup_change Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:39:46 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-21081 ..........................you said it.............it would be good if department heads from UG can come out and visit University and withness research in progess......inter libraries operation and the exchange of books for research work...................the inter action of local libraries and Universities................. one can register for any class once qualify and study via the internet..................only see the instructor two Saturdays a month.............most universities are expanding in department libraries and are establishing meeting halls......................this tone is now shifted to the work place..................you work at home and visit the work place once a week to inter act with your department head...............it all starts and ends with a good telecom system in place................ ……………………..you said it………….it would be good if department heads from UG can come out and visit University and withness research in progess……inter libraries operation and the exchange of books for research work……………….the inter action of local libraries and Universities…………….. one can register for any class once qualify and study via the internet………………only see the instructor two Saturdays a month………….most universities are expanding in department libraries and are establishing meeting halls………………….this tone is now shifted to the work place………………you work at home and visit the work place once a week to inter act with your department head……………it all starts and ends with a good telecom system in place…………….

]]> By: Mainlandweb.com http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-20364 Mainlandweb.com Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:47:27 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20364 Malaika06, My kids are still very young. I am in Canada with them. Yes, I will return to Guyana or probably TT. I am watching how the internet service is developing there. I have no problem living in Guyana with all its crime, but if a man dies and leaves a family behind in Guyana, "Lord have mercy on them". RL Malaika06,
My kids are still very young. I am in Canada with them. Yes, I will return to Guyana or probably TT.
I am watching how the internet service is developing there. I have no problem living in Guyana with all its crime, but if a man dies and leaves a family behind in Guyana, “Lord have mercy on them”.
RL

]]> By: malaika06 http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-20357 malaika06 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:43:20 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20357 Perhaps you may want to open an IT training college, if you already haven't thought about it. Perhaps you may want to open an IT training college, if you already haven’t thought about it.

]]> By: Mainlandweb.com http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-20348 Mainlandweb.com Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:59:23 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20348 If you want to train people to become IT Professionals, you do not have to wait until they reach University Level. Bear in mind, do not neglect regular subjects. You have to put systems in place at Secondary Level. It is not a cake walk. Every programming language is like a different subject. Yes, these languages change constantly, but if you understand a couple of them, you could quickly understand how the others work. How are you going to put out a batch of people to write programs and there is no teacher to give them some formal training at an earlier stage? Not everybody is fortunate to come from a well-to-do family who can send them abroad or pay for special classes. Not everybody is fortunate to have a father that is a Government Minister. If hiring teachers is costly, then tutoring can be done through the internet. It is like Guyana does not have a plan as to where it wants to be in 10 or 15 years time. The government knows exactly which friendly countries would be ready to help us here.It is all about talk. Red Lion If you want to train people to become IT Professionals, you do not have to wait until they reach University Level. Bear in mind, do not neglect regular subjects. You have to put systems in place at Secondary Level. It is not a cake walk. Every programming language is like a different subject. Yes, these languages change constantly, but if you understand a couple of them, you could quickly understand how the others work. How are you going to put out a batch of people to write programs and there is no teacher to give them some formal training at an earlier stage? Not everybody is fortunate to come from a well-to-do family who can send them abroad or pay for special classes. Not everybody is fortunate to have a father that is a Government Minister. If hiring teachers is costly, then tutoring can be done through the internet. It is like Guyana does not have a plan as to where it wants to be in 10 or 15 years time. The government knows exactly which friendly countries would be ready to help us here.It is all about talk.
Red Lion

]]> By: Mr.Simple http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20329 Mr.Simple Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:52:35 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20329 I concurr with Redlion on the issue of amplyfying the profile of education offered at the very crucial transitional level of secondary school. We live in the computer / information age and its neccessary to willfully provoke a disturbance that will effect positive change in the rather defunct 'run of the mill' approach to education at this level in Guyana. All too often we are presented with an embarrassing case of functional illeteracy of professionals graduating from our institutions of higher learning and one of the main reasons for this is the attitude towards education that is inculcated during the formative years of the process. We need new perspectives, professionals who are willing to to pool resourses together and construct a workable plan to resolve this problem. Any restructured educational plan will be made more dynamic if it ensures that students study at least one foreign language, beginning at the secondary level. Basic notions on world history and a comprehensive base on our own (both pre and post colonial) are vital. Best regards. Mr.Simple. I concurr with Redlion on the issue of amplyfying the profile of education offered at the very crucial transitional level of secondary school. We live in the computer / information age and its neccessary to willfully provoke a disturbance that will effect positive change in the rather defunct ‘run of the mill’ approach to education at this level in Guyana.
All too often we are presented with an embarrassing case of functional illeteracy of professionals graduating from our institutions of higher learning and one of the main reasons for this is the attitude towards education that is inculcated during the formative years of the process. We need new perspectives, professionals who are willing to to pool resourses together and construct a workable plan to resolve this problem.
Any restructured educational plan will be made more dynamic if it ensures that students study at least one foreign language, beginning at the secondary level. Basic notions on world history and a comprehensive base on our own (both pre and post colonial) are vital.
Best regards.
Mr.Simple.

]]> By: drumup_change http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20307 drumup_change Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:39:42 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20307 .................... the Government is a beg and barow country with no vision in site. Think about this, a simple solar trafic lights project had to be given to a contractor from India . It could of been installed, and maintain by UG Technology students under a reserch program with the grant going to the Technology reserch at the University. The best resources is your human capital, and if you neglet them you answer what happen. The whole education system needs a make over. The Department of Education have neglet math and science. Some people when they leave Guyana and come to the US and your new home they get a fit when they do understan that they have to do maths and science. All we can do is do our little to help them who down below ……………….. the Government is a beg and barow country with no vision in site.

Think about this, a simple solar trafic lights project had to be given to a contractor from India . It could of been installed, and maintain by UG Technology students under a reserch program with the grant going to the Technology reserch at the University.

The best resources is your human capital, and if you neglet them you answer what happen.

The whole education system needs a make over. The Department of Education have neglet math and science. Some people when they leave Guyana and come to the US and your new home they get a fit when they do understan that they have to do maths and science. All we can do is do our little to help them who down below

]]> By: drumup_change http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20302 drumup_change Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:20:03 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20302 ......... because the decisions makers and the people who can afford it them children getting after lessons and introduction to science in homes that can perpare them to come to the world of technology and poor left to choose Social work, ------- not a bad thing but that need technology too because crime today goes hand in hand with technology. If you poor you ben, it you got money you stand up straight, --- Guyanese should demamd more for there VAT dollars. ……… because the decisions makers and the people who can afford it them children getting after lessons and introduction to science in homes that can perpare them to come to the world of technology and poor left to choose Social work, ——- not a bad thing but that need technology too because crime today goes hand in hand with technology. If you poor you ben, it you got money you stand up straight, — Guyanese should demamd more for there VAT dollars.

]]> By: guyanese69 http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20254 guyanese69 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:01:49 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20254 As it is the justice system in Guyana is practically defunct, and you want to toss more inept lawyers into the mix. As it is the justice system in Guyana is practically defunct, and you want to toss more inept lawyers into the mix.

]]> By: Mainlandweb.com http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20194 Mainlandweb.com Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:43:03 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20194 Since our independence and the abolition of the Privy Council our judicial system has deteriorated tremendously. Can you imagine what the PNM would have done to its opponents in Trinidad and Tobago, had Trinidad abandoned the Privy Council? Look what happened lately with the C N Sharma case. It was the same during the previous administration. There are lots of Attorneys in Guyana to act as Magistrates and Prosecuters. However, they would prefer to practice privately because the remuneration offered by the State is a mere fraction of when they earn when the practice privately. Infact, it is for this reason, our Lawmen are all over the Caribbean. Lawyers always seem to want thing their way. You do not have to be too smart to be an Attorney, however, to be a successful Attorney is something different. Tell me I am wrong! Rgds, Red Lion Since our independence and the abolition of the Privy Council our judicial system has deteriorated tremendously. Can you imagine what the PNM would have done to its opponents in Trinidad and Tobago, had Trinidad abandoned the Privy Council? Look what happened lately with the C N Sharma case. It was the same during the previous administration. There are lots of Attorneys in Guyana to act as Magistrates and Prosecuters. However, they would prefer to practice privately because the remuneration offered by the State is a mere fraction of when they earn when the practice privately. Infact, it is for this reason, our Lawmen are all over the Caribbean. Lawyers always seem to want thing their way. You do not have to be too smart to be an Attorney, however, to be a successful Attorney is something different. Tell me I am wrong!
Rgds,
Red Lion

]]> By: Amalya Owiet http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20178 Amalya Owiet Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:00:24 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20178 If we all can remember when Guyana abolished appeals to the privy council there were those who doubted our ability to perform as the white men did but we were persistent in our quest for independence from any outside system and cautious about their influence since at that time we believed in national development and pursued it at reasonable costs. Having a law school in Guyana is as important as having secondary school teachers, both law and education are integral parts of our overall national functioning and development. Like the abolition of appeals the establishment of a law school is sure to boost the spirit of independence and progress. Therefore opinions which underestimate the importance of a law school which can aptly train Guyanese lawyers at a feasible cost resulting in the improvement of our legal system, are definitely short sighted if we're to think, talk and work towards a better Guyana. If we all can remember when Guyana abolished appeals to the privy council there were those who doubted our ability to perform as the white men did but we were persistent in our quest for independence from any outside system and cautious about their influence since at that time we believed in national development and pursued it at reasonable costs. Having a law school in Guyana is as important as having secondary school teachers, both law and education are integral parts of our overall national functioning and development. Like the abolition of appeals the establishment of a law school is sure to boost the spirit of independence and progress. Therefore opinions which underestimate the importance of a law school which can aptly train Guyanese lawyers at a feasible cost resulting in the improvement of our legal system, are definitely short sighted if we’re to think, talk and work towards a better Guyana.

]]> By: badlall http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-20000 badlall Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:21:05 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-20000 A law school needs professors of law to teach .....it is a very very very very expensive program....who is going to police this program in GT...what we will end up with is a lot of not so smart lawyers...if my memory serves me right this was an election ploy....... A law school needs professors of law to teach …..it is a very very very very expensive program….who is going to police this program in GT…what we will end up with is a lot of not so smart lawyers…if my memory serves me right this was an election ploy…….

]]> By: New Paradigm http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19974 New Paradigm Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:52:58 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19974 Its simply business. Do not compare this to the public school system. I know there are alot of jokes about lawyers but they are important. that is why we need to have more competition. The operation of the justice systen is very important to the democratic process. Also why should the rich alone have their children become lawyers. A number od our lawyers are working in the caribbean. We would continue to export this service among others. We train out teachers and they go, Our nurses go our lawyers would also go. Lets not be narrow minded. Its simply business. Do not compare this to the public school system. I know there are alot of jokes about lawyers but they are important. that is why we need to have more competition.

The operation of the justice systen is very important to the democratic process.

Also why should the rich alone have their children become lawyers.

A number od our lawyers are working in the caribbean. We would continue to export this service among others. We train out teachers and they go, Our nurses go our lawyers would also go. Lets not be narrow minded.

]]> By: New Paradigm http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19972 New Paradigm Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:46:55 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19972 teh fees are supposed to be cost effective. It should pay for whatever is required. Whatever inputs are put in place should be recovered. It should be run like a business. teh fees are supposed to be cost effective. It should pay for whatever is required. Whatever inputs are put in place should be recovered. It should be run like a business.

]]> By: New Paradigm http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19970 New Paradigm Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:43:26 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19970 There is no exclusion. The government should have pursued policies that woul;d have trained more people in the sciences. However the reality is that those trained join the brian drain.. At the moment a reasonable number of Guyanese are being trained in Cuba in the field of engineering. The manufacturing sector is hampered by the investment climate. Its mnot easy getting loans from the mank and the interest rates are ridiculous. The law school would not be subsidised like UG. Students would have to pay their way. It would also attract foreign students and in a way there would be some level of academic tourism. Our Lawyers would not only service Guyana but the wider carribbean. We would have more competition and so we would have more lawyers to serve as magistrates. It would bring down the cost of legal fees. The prosecuters in the courts would be lawyers and so the police could very well win more cases and so bring in fines to the government trreasury Having said that the point is what is the position of the leaders of the government on this. There is no exclusion. The government should have pursued policies that woul;d have trained more people in the sciences. However the reality is that those trained join the brian drain..

At the moment a reasonable number of Guyanese are being trained in Cuba in the field of engineering.

The manufacturing sector is hampered by the investment climate. Its mnot easy getting loans from the mank and the interest rates are ridiculous.
The law school would not be subsidised like UG. Students would have to pay their way. It would also attract foreign students and in a way there would be some level of academic tourism.

Our Lawyers would not only service Guyana but the wider carribbean.

We would have more competition and so we would have more lawyers to serve as magistrates. It would bring down the cost of legal fees. The prosecuters in the courts would be lawyers and so the police could very well win more cases and so bring in fines to the government trreasury

Having said that the point is what is the position of the leaders of the government on this.

]]> By: Mainlandweb.com http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19870 Mainlandweb.com Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:32:36 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19870 Guyana does not need for Attorneys. I think that apart of the studies is done at the University of Guyana. The Ministry of Education needs to employ teachers to teach secondary school students some basic skills in programming, such as understanding and writing web scripts. Ordinary level students should be taught basic html scripting, while Advance students should be taught more advance scripts, such as PHP, PERL and so on. Even Java Script is becoming more and more popular. All the browsers now seems to be supporting Java Scripts. Rgds, Red Lion (www.gtrl.tv) Guyana does not need for Attorneys. I think that apart of the studies is done at the University of Guyana.
The Ministry of Education needs to employ teachers to teach secondary school students some basic skills in programming, such as understanding and writing web scripts. Ordinary level students should be taught basic html scripting, while Advance students should be taught more advance scripts, such as PHP, PERL and so on. Even Java Script is becoming more and more popular. All the browsers now seems to be supporting Java Scripts.
Rgds,
Red Lion
(www.gtrl.tv)

]]> By: cochore http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19868 cochore Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:23:14 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19868 Meidou has struck gold again. Right now, Guyana has about a handfull of genuine intellectuals. However, apart from 'BRAIN DRAIN' the main reason is the lack of a progressive research library facility. A University is ranked by the quality of its research library and its research laboratory facilities and not by the brilliance of its professors or its students. And another thing, a serious LAW school is wired totally for the internet, where every student has an account with free access to the internet and other major university law libraries. Meidou has struck gold again. Right now, Guyana has about a handfull of genuine intellectuals. However, apart from ‘BRAIN DRAIN’ the main reason is the lack of a progressive research library facility.

A University is ranked by the quality of its research library and its research laboratory facilities and not by the brilliance of its professors or its students. And another thing, a serious LAW school is wired totally for the internet, where every student has an account with free access to the internet and other major university law libraries.

]]> By: Durbie http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19842 Durbie Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:27:59 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19842 Guyana does not need more Lawyers. We need Engineering schools. Manufacturing is almost non-existent in Guyana and one of the primary reasons for the high unemployment in Guyana. Guyana does not need more Lawyers. We need Engineering schools. Manufacturing is almost non-existent in Guyana and one of the primary reasons for the high unemployment in Guyana.

]]> By: Meidou http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19828 Meidou Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:43:19 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19828 they dont teach physics in schools since all the intellectuals like us have decided to abandoned Guyana.Its referred to as the BRAIN DRAIN they dont teach physics in schools since all the intellectuals like us have decided to abandoned Guyana.Its referred to as the BRAIN DRAIN

]]> By: Steel http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/letters/08/22/why-no-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-19775 Steel Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:34:17 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=20751#comment-19775 ...and why is it they don't teach physics at the schools in Guyana. …and why is it they don’t teach physics at the schools in Guyana.

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