Jagdeo says police have different ballistics info
President Bharrat Jagdeo yesterday said that an independent forensic pathologist will arrive here soon to conduct an investigation into the slaughter of eight miners at a remote diamond mining camp in the country’s hinterland.
Jagdeo also said that the police have contradicted a story carried in yesterday’s Stabroek News where it was stated that the spent shells found at the Lindo Creek mining camp did not match any retrieved at the scenes of crimes thought to have been committed by Rondell Rawlins and his gang. Stabroek News was told on Tuesday that analysis conducted earlier in the day showed no match of the shells. However, it was stated yesterday that a further check late Tuesday showed that some of the shells matched those used at the slaughter in Bartica. Stabroek News had given the force an opportunity on Tuesday to respond to reports that there had been no match but the force declined. Reports that there was no ballistics match were carried by several media houses yesterday. Official police ballistics reports have been greeted with increasing public skepticism in recent months.
Jagdeo told a press conference yesterday at the Office of the President that after reading the story in yesterday’s Stabroek News he enquired from Police Commissioner Henry Greene about the ballistics findings and was told that it was at complete variance to what was reported in the press. Jagdeo however did not want to disclose what the findings are and he said it was not clear whether the police are willing to release the results at this stage. Police have frequently issued ballistics information immediately after the commission of major crimes.
Meanwhile, calling for an end to speculation, Jagdeo announced that the administration had requested from the United States through its embassy here assistance in the area of forensic pathology to examine the remains to determine the manner of their deaths and also how long they might have been killed. Government pathologist, Nehaul Singh had visited Lindo Creek on Sunday along with a team of police investigators during which time, a number of 7.62 spent shells were found along with documents. (See other story on page 8.)
Leonard Arokium, the owner of the dredge and camp at Lindo Creek has repeatedly accused the military of carrying out the killings of the eight men. The joint services have since denied the claims, saying that the allegations were unthinkable and unimaginable. “These people were brutally murdered and the entire country should be outraged,” the president said. He added that his administration plans to fully investigate the incident, while assuring that the findings would be made public. “I am urging all of us not to speculate…we have a syndrome in Guyana that as soon as something happens everyone seems to know,” the head of state remarked, asserting that citizens should allow the independent inquiry to go on. Arokium had said that on Saturday night he was visited by several senior government officials who were adamant that the attack had been mounted by Fineman’s gang.
On the issue of a commission of inquiry (CI), one of many recommendations made by the Alliance For Change to investigate the matter, Jagdeo said he has seen a letter written by the party’s leader, Raphael Trotman on the matter and the two of them have since had a talk. He said while he had not decided whether they would go the route of a CI, if one is to be done it would have to include the other recent massacres to determine whether there was any political involvement. “I have not decided whether a Commission of Inquiry is the best vehicle, but we think that external expertise at this time is the best route to go,” Jagdeo asserted.
In a letter to Jagdeo which was released to the media on Monday Trotman called for the administration to immediately appoint an independent commission of inquiry with an overseas forensic pathologist to probe the slaying of the eight miners. In the letter the AFC leader said from the details, anecdotal information received from persons resident in the Berbice River area where the miners were killed and elsewhere, many questions have been raised as to the identity of those responsible for this atrocity. “Such an accusation is most unwarranted at this time, and if not addressed at the highest level, could have dire consequences and implications for the rule of law…” the AFC said in its letter to the head of state.
The party noted that coming in the aftermath of the most recent massacres at Lusignan and Bartica, coupled with the need to validate and give due recognition to the role and dedication of the joint services and more particularly, the Guyana Defence Force during these testing times, a CI was necessary. The AFC further implored the president to take the request seriously, and in so doing consult the parliamentary opposition parties on his decision to identify and name commissioners to the commission. Asked about the findings of the police investigations so far, Jagdeo said from the internal analyses being done the results differ from public speculation. “I have seen the internal analyses which suggest a theory (of) what took place,” Jagdeo noted. The security forces had been severely criticized for their initial bungling of the Christmas Falls operation where they encountered a group of gunmen. One high-ranking military official had told this newspaper that the army was not involved in the June 6, operation at Christmas Falls.
Asked about this yesterday, Jagdeo said while a joint services team had been set up to specifically hunt down Rawlins and his gang there still exist different operational groups within the security forces which would undertake independent operations. The military official said it was inconceivable that a major operation in dense jungle was launched and the country’s premier law enforcement arm was not involved.
Jagdeo also mentioned that following the escape of the gunmen from Christmas Falls, the Guyana Forestry Commission had issued an advisory for all miners and loggers to clear the area. “We have to ask the question whether this group of eight miners was not told and why or whether they were told and why they did not leave,” the president said.
Tortured
Senior joint services officials have admitted that there were a number of outstanding questions to be answered. Stabroek News had been told that lawmen who visited the Lindo Creek camp site found evidence of some of the miners being tortured. This newspaper has been informed that one of the skulls found at the location had an impression suggesting that the person was beaten in the head. According to information reaching Stabroek News, on arrival at the camp all the lawmen found were burnt bones. Reports are that the camp site has been sealed off to facilitate the work of the US forensic expert.




WELL PRESI BAAI WAKE UP!! WHERE WAS HE WHEN WE WERE WAITING WITH ABATED BREATHS FOR COMMENTS ON THE ROGER KHAN SAGA? WHY ARE WE ONLY NOW HEARING A BULLETIN WAS ISSUED FOR THE AREA TO BE CLEARED? WHY DIDN’T THE POLICE SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING? DO YOU THINK THOSE MEN WOULD HAVE REMAINED THERE KNOWING CRIMINALS WITH MORE WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION THAN OUR JS WOULD ENDANGER THEIR LIVES? WAS THE OFFICER WHO THE WOMAN ALLEDGED BORROW HER CELL QUESTIONED? WOULD THE OFFICERS WHO WERE IN THAT AREA BE SUBJECTED TO LIE DETECTORS TESTS? WOULD THEIR WEAPONS BE SUBJECTED TO TESTING TO CONFIRM/DENY WHETHER THOSE WEAPONS WERE USED IN THAT INCIDENT? IF OFFICERS WERE TO GO THROUGH THESE THINGS CAN WE BE ASSURED THAT THEY WOULD BE EXPOSED AND BROUGHT TO TRIAL? OR WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO ESCAPE LIKE “SKINNY”
People would always speculate when the govt is not being honest with the citizen, so when the govt get honest with the people there will be no speculations until then that’s all we have.
amen-ra-ta
I think it is time for Jagdeo to go. He is doing nothing to protect Guyananese nor to improve the standard of living. Everytime I speak with a friend or family member the only thing they could say is that they want to leave Guyana, things are too hard there.
I support your call. JAGDEO MUST GO ALONG WITH ALL HIS MINISTERS, POLICE CHIEF, CRIME CHIEF, ARMY CHIEF. They all are wasting the tax payers $$$$ doing nuttin.
I hereby challenge Stabroek News to either back up yesterdays story of – Ballistics Show No Link – with credible sources of this information or issue a retraction of the story.
rk’ …I think I read Stabroeknews saying that they first got the news of the ballistics to be that the shells did not match Finemans guns and when SN gave the authorities the chance to say something (before printing the story) the experts declined any comment, so naturally SN printed what they had. Today it is claimed that some of the shells bears a resemblance to Finemans guns and that is also what SN printed after the fact that no one else wanted to comment on the ballistics findings. I think SN’s story is credible and so a retraction of the story is not necessary. Lets be fair rk.
Something very fishy is going on here. Why is this government doing this to the people of Guyana? It is stated that Jagdeo did not want to disclose what the findings are and he said it was not clear whether the police are willing to release the results at this stage. This is giving us the impression that they are indeed hiding the truth from us.
I know the evidence is tampered with already,but I am still glad an expert from the U.S is coming,let see what happens.
rdman,
this i can’t wait to see…i can forsee more broken promises..
The Police/Government have always been quick (within a day or so) to link major crimes with “Fineman’s’ Gang.
So why, after more than four days, the Police have not been able to give a clear response whether the murders included Fineman’s weapons or someone else’s?
I am certain that, with the amount of spent shells that the Police now have from ‘fineman’s’ weapons, there should have been a quick evaluation.
Come on, Mr President, something is definitely amiss and you need to start getting answers quickly. Your people are waiting and watching your leadership.
I am thinking that The President is awaiting a foreign forensic team because of the accusations being placed on the JS and the GPF. Would the public trust a local forensic team?
Nevertheless, I don’t believe this would prove anything significant as the crime scene could have already be tampered with, with regards to the ballistics and the shells. The foreign team would however be able to better prove the time of death and manner of death though this would not stop the speculations.
I again challenge Stabroek News to either back up yesterdays story of – Ballistics Show No Link – with credible sources of this information or issue a retraction of the story.
Hope this pathologist is not like Bernard Kerik, if it is we doom.
Jagdeo is a “true politician”. Just look at the US, these guys will do and say ANYTHING.. anything to remain in power, anything to win, anything to appear right…and who could blame them…..being on the outside looking in SUCKS…just ask the affected minority in Guyana….. LOL (waiting for outrage from his overseas “contingent”…)
I DON’T BELIEVE