Comments on: AFC ups forensics pressure -”Gov’t should pay for UK team to examine Lindo Creek site”

By: owenon123

owenon123 — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:57:06 +0000

Ok, regardless to all of that torturous stuff. Are you trying to compare Guyana to the US where democracy is concern?

The Gov’t of Guyana does not have any Ethical Judgment whatsoever for the people on Guyana.

Of course I’m for the US, I’m living here right, and regardless of what you are saying I do get justice here because there are system in place where I or anyone that lives here could find moral judgment.

I am also for Guyana but I cannot live there under those circumstances.

Why are you living in Canada?

By: owenon123

owenon123 — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:36:25 +0000

I heard you Mackydog but we’ve to put those days behind us and stride towards the new days ahead of us.

Yes, they could interrogate without burning people to get the truth. Those men weren’t charged with any crime nor committed any crime mackydog.

In fact, if the Gov’t and opposition party don’t stop the animosity against each other then Guyana is not going to move forward and be a prosperous nation. We need to put an end it such thing.

By: Desilusionada

Desilusionada — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:15:48 +0000

There is an Embassy in Guyana and hundreds of citizens visiting every year. I do not assume that name tags are always worn. And I believe that the report is essentially factual, if not understated.

By: AFINAM

AFINAM — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:31:13 +0000

The GOvernment should not pay:

Because any person can then hire their own private investigators to do research work then pass the pay check over to the Government.

By: AFINAM

AFINAM — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:29:54 +0000

DO YOU THINK THOSE FAT FEES applies to the USA drugs report on Guyana especially when the USA had no local personels on the ground?

By: Desilusionada

Desilusionada — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:58:43 +0000

FYI such statements and action are a normal part of a foreign consulate’s operational mandate in its host country. Britain or Canada’s HC can say anything in the interest of good PR and this is the stuff of successful annual reports. Further, Guyana is only one of many states that will access debt write-offs this year. Big deal. So too with the UN which has sponsored so many fact-finding missions that all this points to is another ‘expert’ getting a ‘fat’ fee to write up ‘facts’ that are there for all to see.

By: Desilusionada

Desilusionada — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:42:09 +0000

No! Asking GoG to pay would negate the entire investigation. An independent inquiry should be just that – independent. If GoG pays, then naturally it would get first dibs at the final report and then decide if or when to release it. What about setting up a fund for the victims’ families to offset the cost?

By: truegt

truegt — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:16:00 +0000

check the credibility of the american administration by the rest of the world.guyana is now reaping what was planted by the pnc.when criminals were given heroes funerals and attendance by an expresident was the begining of all this lawlessness.and all these unmotivated killings{lusignan/bartica].its plain to see these are efforts to destabilise the country and government.

By: truegt

truegt — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:05:44 +0000

my responce was to the comment made by jbrownboy.seems like you can say anything bout the ppp and its supporters and nothing bout pnc and thiers.

By: caligula

caligula — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:20:47 +0000

Talking about what past police and army chiefs, and anyone else for that matter, might have done over 15 years ago can’t solve Guyanese problems of today.
T&T is progressing because the Government there is very responsible and so are the rest of Caricom

By: mackydog

mackydog — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:02:13 +0000

Hey owenon123,
What’s up yo…I’m here still, has been travelling around the East Coast (NYC, MD, VA and Miami) a bit so I was preoccupied otherwise. Thanks for hailing me up, I appreciate the invitation to answer you.
Well yeah the holiday is here and a happy 4th to you too, been dealing with the BBQ and stuff – you know.
Actually no, I really didn’t hear of the issue on the Linden H/way earlier in the year so I don’t know. On second thought though, according to you, this whole accusation as quoted above came from Raphael Trotman and he’s the PNCR. Honestly, I do not trust these guys for a second and so, because it comes from him, I’d say it’s politics as usual. What would anyone expect from the opposition PNC and PNCR.
The army does not have a track record about torturing…not that I have heard of before this particular accusation came up and IF it is true that the soldiers “tortured” anyone, it would be the first time that has happened, and a first time incident is not considered as a “track record”.
My thoughts on the issue of the soldiers torturing anyone, if that has happened is that the soldiers did what they had to do to extract info from murderers who had info on the raids on Lusignan and Bartica by Fineman and his group of murderers. Owenon123, this is not a joke, this is serious business, these murderers running around with AK-47 guns and killing ppl wantonly HAD to be stopped…by all and any means necessary, and so if these murderers were “questioned unconventionally” then that’s what it had to take to get them to squeal. The good news is that none of them died, as compared to the days of the PNC during the Burnham error, (if you don’t know you will know now) anyone entering “flat house” (Special Branch opposite QC on Camp St.) for questioning never came out alive…furthermore some never resurfaced and is missing till now. Like I said, this is not a joke…to me these murderers of innocent women and children deserved nothing less IF they were tortured.
Owenon123, MACKYDOG don’t hide bro. I’m always here and I can’t be rebutted.

By: La vie est bonne!

La vie est bonne! — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:37:47 +0000

I applaud your tenacity. However, certain animals are best kept at bay.

It’s like donkeys, you got to let them bray!!!

By: BADLALL

BADLALL — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:56:57 +0000

Mr Trotman and Mr Hughes should invite the media of the caricom nations to Guyana to do an interview with themselves and Mr Arokium, It is not hard to contact the media houses………… Caricom head Office is right there on the East Coast 2 miles from Georgetown.

By: kabaka

kabaka — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:49:31 +0000

Please my friend look at the track record of uncle sam’s troops abroad–InAfganistan,Iraq,Central America etc.Nothing can compare to their torturous conduct in “bringing democracy “to nations.The GDF and GPF are mandated to protect the vulnerable against those who seek to strike terror and fear.As far as i am concerned they should be applauded and encouraged to continue their good deeds.”SO ARE YOU WITH US OR AGAINST US”

By: La vie est bonne!

La vie est bonne! — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:48:53 +0000

Absolutely I agree on that too.

By: La vie est bonne!

La vie est bonne! — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:48:34 +0000

I agree with you. However, as you know that the pattern of voting in Guyana is based along ethnic lines, so we can only hope for the best. But expect the worse.

By: INXS

INXS — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:48:58 +0000

Look at the voting stats each election, as to who the armed forces vote for. Not that I’m saying they being supporters of Pnc would make them any less enforcers of the law

By: owenon123

owenon123 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:38:36 +0000

MACKYDOG I WENT TO GUYANA IN 2004 AND I WAS SO GLAD TO SEE BLACK AND INDIAN COUPLES STROLLING HAND IN HAND ON THE SEAWALLS AND ELSE WHERE IN GUYANA.

COULD YOU IMAGINE TOP GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CANNOT ANSWER TO QUESTIONS BEING ASKED BY THE MEDIA, NEITHER GAVE SPECIFICS ON ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS?

ONLY THE PRESIDENT KNOWS AND COULD GIVE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS. IN FACT, HE IS FREQUENTLY OUT OF THE COUNTRY CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?

THEREFORE, I GUESSED THAT IS WHY THE PUBLIC IS EXPECTING HIM TO DOING EVERYTHING BECAUSE HE IS THE CENTRAL CONTROLLER OF THE UNIT. HE KNOWS ALL.

THIS IS THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY MACKYDOG, WAKE UP! THERE IS TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE TO AUTHORITIES LIVES EASIER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS IN GUYANA.

By: owenon123

owenon123 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:12:30 +0000

YOU ARE RIGHT MR. TROTMAN, THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO AMIABLE (FRIENDLY OR LIKABLE RELATIONSHIP) BETWEEN THEM AND THE UNITED STATES.

MR. JAGDEO AND HIS GOV’T ARE PLAYING GAMES. MR. JAGDEO KNOWS FULLY WELL THERE IS NO HELP COMING FROM THE U.S.A. UNCLE SAM HAS NO TIME FOR JAGDEO.

THE GUYANA DEFENCE FORCE HAS THE NERVES TO TELL THE MEDIA AS FOLLOWS:

“THE GUYANA DEFENCE FORCE SAYS IT STRONGLY ADVISES ALL MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA AGAINST FUELLING SPECULATION REGARDING THE TRAGEDY LAST MONTH AT LINDO CREEK THROUGH THE PUBLICATION OF UNFOUNDED OPINIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.”

AS I SAID YESTERDAY, “GET OUTTA HERE AND BE FOR REAL.”

“THIS IS THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY, WHO THE HELL DO YOU GUYS THINKS Y’ALL TALKING TOO? WE ARE CIVILIANS SIR!”

“FREEDOM OF EXPESSION!” WE DO NOT NEED DICTATORSHIP IN GUYANA. WE NEED DEMOCRACY!

TELL YOUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF TO FINANCE THE UK-BASED FORENSIC TEAM IDENTIFIED BY RELATIVES OF THE EIGHT MINERS SLAIN AT LINDO CREEK, OR GIVE THE FAMILIES PERMISSION AND ASSISTANT IN THE INVESTIGATION.

TO MACKYDOG, WHAT’S UP I HAVN’T HEARD FROM YOU IN AWHILE NOW? THE USA CELEBRATES THEIR INDEPENDENCE DAY TODAY, HAPPY 4TH OF JULY TO ALL OF YOU HERE IN THE UNITED STATES .

I KNOW YOU’RE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE DOING THAT BAR-BE-CUE STUFF, READING AND LISTENING. YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU COULDN’T REMEMBER ABOUT THE LINDEN HIGHWAY TORTURING OF THE MEN BY THE HANDS OF THE GDF OFFICERS. HERE IS A MEMO: ACCORDING TO MR. TROTMAN STATEMENT, READ AS FOLLOWS:

“ALREADY THERE HAS BEE A COVER-UP OF THE TORTURE ALLEGATIONS LEVELLED EARLIER IN THE YEAR AGAINST GDF
AND WE JUST WILL NOT ALLOW ANOTHER COVER UP OF WHAT MAY VERY WELL TURN OUT TO BE A SECURITY OPERATION GONE HORRIFICALLY WRONG.”

NOW YOU KNOW THAT THE ARMY HAS A TRACK RECORD OF HUMAN
TORTURING. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?
I’M CALLING YOU OUT FROM HIDING MACKYDOG…LOL.

I AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE.

By: mackydog

mackydog — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:48:09 +0000

truegt,
I agree with you perfectly, some ppl tend to go off on a serious tangent from the issue. Somehow, they expect the government (not the servantsof the government)to do everything, be everywhere, they expect the President himself to literally take up a police car and a gun to go arrest the criminals. Indeed the GDF and the GPF are predominantly black by a large percentage without a doubt. These organisations were structured to be like this by the PNC for the longivity and security of the Burnham regime while Indians stuck to land ownership, educational upliftment and inevitable migration, the Portuguese stuck to land mining and merchandising, and the Black ppl who were not in the GDF and GPF were our “hustlers” trading and selling on the pavements of Water Street and Regent Streets and squatting in Sophia, Turkeyen, East and West Ruimveldt Front Road, Mandella Ave. and all over. That trend continued until now where the government (in an effort to boost the security forces) had to recruit our Amerindian ppl en masse.
Because it is so difficult to balance the security forces racially, the ranks and soldiers are uncooperative and unwilling to do their jobs in arresting the crime situation in Guyana because the past Commissioners and past Brigadiers felt they ‘re faithful to the Commander in Chief (the President and PPP) while being unfaithful to their “Leaders” (the PNC). This is why the country cannot progress because never mind for as much as the PPP is doing their darnest to develop Guyana for our ppl to have a better life, their will always be hindrances and gross opposition…we can’t go nowhere or show any progress. Why is Trinidad constantly moving forward and they are full of Indians and Blacks like GT?

By: AFINAM

AFINAM — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:38:09 +0000

IT is the recent arrest/deaths of child killers from Buxton that did it. It showed conclusively that what was being said before was accurate:

1) Buxton played an important part in an African Guyanese Armed Reisitance.
2) The children of Buxton were being used as lookouts by the gunmen.
3) Certain politicians and Civil Leaders were in cahoots with these gunmen thereby giving the resistance support.
4) The African Guyanese Armed Resistance was using child soldiers.
5) The actual members of the Resistance were not allowed to come and go as they please.

By: AFINAM

AFINAM — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:33:54 +0000

You obviously do not understand what is happening in Guyana:

Lets see, RECENTLY:

There has been the British High Commissioner saying that they will create a way to help Guyana economy expand.
Then there is the recent Canadian High Commissioner also alluding to the same things.
Then there is IDB debt write off (read: American debt write off).
Then there is the UN sending a “conflict “resolution person this month to Guyana on a fact finding mission.

ALL of this sounds to me like this Administration in Guyana is getting a lot of overseas help in ensuring stability in Guyana.

THE Diplomatic Community does not rely on locals for their ADVICE. When the PNC writes to the State Department about a suspected misdeed by the Administration the State Department contacts its Embassy in Guyana and ask for their input.

By: AFINAM

AFINAM — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:27:29 +0000

SO AROKIUM decides to give the woman and the man, who called him before the discovery at Lindo Valley, the benefit of the doubt when these two people said it was the JS even though they had to know who killed whom and where they were killed.
It is obvious that this woman and man are eyewitnesses AT THE POPULAR LOCATION OF LINDO VALLEY. Or, this woman and man are in bed with the killers and rang AROKIUM just to spread fear in Guyana.

Then Arokium decides to hire private practice to do a forensic on the bodies. Since he does not trust the work of the JS how can an overseas forensic expert who would report to whomever pays him prove to Arokium that it was not the JS?

By: redindian

redindian — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:00:35 +0000

i reckon the US sun has gone to your head you are purely speculating and no evidence .
the us govt have just given $4.5 million towards the health in guyana if you were talking the truth why are they still helping guyana !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!