Comments on: Burnt and beaten prisoner laid to rest

By: de canadianCarl Veecock

de canadianCarl Veecock — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:36:58 +0000

Big big difference…malaika06.

After the facts and the situation were reviewed, opinion was felt that no one in
authority could be accused of any wrong doing. So it would be OK to proceed
with an inquest. OK so far?

Now if the situation were to be reversed, and there could be potential wrong
doing by anyone in authority, then we have to delay, prevaricate, hedge and act
in a different manner so as to delay, avoid, void, postpone, opine that it is really
not what it first appeared to be and dance skilfully around the matter. Result?
No inquest would be soon held and if perchance the pressure forced the
holding of one, that would take a few years to be heard due to the current work
load. Again…OK so far?

Therefore there is a big big difference between the cases.

Officials cannot be wrong and therefore they have to be extremely cautious in
dealiing with sensitive matters that could make persons in authority look bad.

I was a very important public servant , so just believe what I have explained.

By: rwilliams

rwilliams — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:41:22 +0000

Change will come when the society matures and its members does not vote and give political support to one political party or the other, based on racial fear and bigotry.
The backwardness of the society, will be preyed upon by its political leaders, to entrench themselves in power as long as this is possible.
Change will come to the society, but only by the awareness and critical action of its members.
Change, will difinitely not be given on a platter by the political leaders of the PPP and PNC.

By: bgsbny

bgsbny — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:27:38 +0000

…….” school your kids ” ! highly loaded explosive phrase ! ah kno’ the FBI made a note of this……

By: bgsbny

bgsbny — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:18:07 +0000

……. the theory of the psychologists,,,,, is that children live what they learn !!!!!!!!

the “presee” who/what ever that is,, grew up during the “regal reign”,, so i guess by extension ,, the child that is now “presee” is merely acting out what was ingrained in him from then,,, so too are most of the criminal elements of the society ,, both white and blue collar,, blue collar and petty thieves has poverty as their claim to infamy !………………….

By: malaika06

malaika06 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:14:06 +0000

I want to know why the CJ didn’t see it fit to order an inquest into Niles death as he did for the guy who committed suicide at Enmore Police Station.

They both died whilst in Police custody. So tell me what is the difference?

By: malaika06

malaika06 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:08:53 +0000

Mr VeeCock, do you want me to accept that there is NOT ONE DECENT man/woman in the Armed Forces, left with INTEGRITY, HONESTY and a sense of JUSTICE?

If that’s the REALITY, then God truly help us!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Roula

Roula — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:24 +0000

Some time I wonder what really UN does in Guyana? They are going behind Mugabe but there is a begining of Mugabenism right there in Guyana. The government is not strong enough to catch a “Finny” man, oppositions is not even able to come out with a speech that would transform a nation and the population is cought in the middle and the only alternative is to blame one party or the other.
How can someone dies in the prison and there is no proper investigation. What about the 8 miners? even the minister was killed and they could not catch the killers!
People take back what belong to you, school your kids and they shall set you free in the near future.

By: La vie est bonne!

La vie est bonne! — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:24:59 +0000

Carl, not sure what you mean.
However, a country is only as great as the rulers.
What greatness do you mean?

By: de canadianCarl Veecock

de canadianCarl Veecock — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:09:21 +0000

That is in the report Berkeley Van Bowen.

Trouble is that we will never see, nor read that report for it would shuffle from
one desk to another interminably, until all public interest wanes ( as is usual),
and everything continues unabated.

Such a clear case of brutality should be speedily dealt with, but I guess the
Presee is too busy with Sharma TV , the lie dectector tests, and the newspapers to intervene in this homicide.

Action is only taken when the Presee intervenes.

By: de canadianCarl Veecock

de canadianCarl Veecock — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:02:40 +0000

Forget the ideals. Reality is in force and that is what we have to contend with.

The shady cannot expose the shady.
Just pause on that thought for a moment.
If the bosses are shady, do you think that will expose the shady?
Not on your life.

Agreed ….”Guyana is still a great country…”. Note your word “STILL”

Our patriotism will not die especially when we are not in THAT LAND, but go
there and contend with the harshness and the brutality, then that ‘great’ might
morph into ‘downtrodden’, lawless, cruel, ignorant, and all the realities that are
ever so present to the citizens.

NO! Guyana is NOT STILL A GREAT COUNTRY.

It has lost its lustre and for us expatriates, it is but a pleasant memory that we
will keep with us as long as we live.

That change might come is a fervent hope.

LIVE IN HOPE i ALWAYS SAY

By: de canadianCarl Veecock

de canadianCarl Veecock — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:53:31 +0000

Live in hope I say.

I guess you mean that God is not sleeping ( reference your pyjamas).

Change and rectitude will not come in our lifetime.

We just have to live in hope.

By: finethings

finethings — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:23:40 +0000

my sympathy goes out to all the families of Guyana who has lost their loved ones unjustly. my heart goes out to you all. one day by the hooks or the crooks justice will prevail no matter how long it may take. god does not wear pyjamas.

By: finethings

finethings — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:10:44 +0000

you are right gyukb Guyana is indeed the land of the lawless. justice is a word that has no meaning for the citizens of Guyana. The joint services and the police force is getting way with a lot of things.seeing that “fineman” is the most wanted they will do their dirty work and blame it on poor fineman. Next you will start hearing about skinny.his fame is soon coming.just imagine these wanted crimminals have millions of money for there capture.that is what our money is for. instead of giving it to the starved and hungry in guyana it is for reward to capture a crimminal. gyubk you might not even want to set foot in guyana because of the lawlessness. the high price for bus fare and commodities is killin us. WE ARE STARVING IN GUYANA AND THE GOV’T WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE U KNOW Y?

By: Berkeley Van Bowen

Berkeley Van Bowen — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:20:28 +0000

Even if we are to accept the Police’s claim that they were not involved in the beating of this prisoner. How does the officers responsible for guarding the prison explain not seeing or hearing this man being so brutally assaulted?

By: Chemist

Chemist — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:25:24 +0000

I have read timelessly and witnessed how the Police Force and now the Army and Prison Services has racked up a track record of distrust. It is now up to them to change the public’s perception of their actions by coming clean. If they know of any shady members among their ranks, of which we all know they are many, expose them to face justice for their actions and help to save those few unblemished members who are willing to upkeep the laws of our land. I grew up in a Military family and always looked up to my parents who are people of integrity, their rank and uniform was looked at with respect not fear and scorn at it is today. Guyana is still a great country, we only need good, honest, leaders with commonsense and we will be back on track. “We can, We must, We will”. Remember that.

By: gyukb

gyukb — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:55:58 +0000

i don`t think we can expect any thing positive comming out of this case. it as long now being accepted that torture is away of live for presioner in guyana. .like many b4 him this administration will do nothing after all hw muc deos he worth to them. for the family of this guy my sympathy . but to expect justice is like asking satan to repent. and no way you will get that.
as for tortue by the joint services until now the report can not be release. why wat is big secret they keeping. that the guyana demacrocy that these people preach about . they are as much guilty as the convicts.
o guyana you have become land of the lawless. because of the many lords and kings we have.
don`t expect much justice when you go abroad if you can`t get at home.