-family says she has been beaten
A mother of five has been detained by the police after her number was discovered in a cellular phone found on Jermaine ‘Skinny’ Charles at the time of his death and relatives have alleged that she has been beaten.
Relatives of Lucy Simon say she was carted off in handcuffs from a home in Sophia on Thursday evening.
Stabroek News was told that two van loads of soldiers and policemen descended on the home and arrested the woman and a brother, who has since been released.
Relatives said that the woman has since stated that she has been shuttled between the East La Penitence Police Station and Eve Leary and that she has been beaten. Police officials could not be reached yesterday for comment.
Relatives say she has since been informed that her number was found in Charles’ phone. She received a call on her phone sometime on Thursday but was not aware that she was talking to a law officer and revealed where she was after the information was requested.
The woman operates a shop in Sophia and according to her relatives she cooks and sleeps in the shop with her children.
The lawmen descended on the shop, which was at the time being operated by her 11-year-old daughter, late Thursday afternoon. Her brother was sitting outside the shop at the time and when he was asked who he was he told them that he was just a customer. According to the family, the child was roughed up after saying she didn’t know where her mother was.
As they were taking the child from the shop she told them the man sitting outside was her uncle and they should ask him where her mother was. Relatives said that the lawmen then started to beat her brother and at the same time Simon, who was above the shop in her relative’s home peeped out of a window. The officers saw her and entered the home. Simon and her brother were then carted off to the station.
Relatives stated that that the woman said she met Charles after visiting a relative in the prison but that he had never communicated with her since his escape. She said the only communication she has ever had with Charles was when he requested a bottle of water when she visited the prison. She does not know how he got her phone number.
The woman’s relatives are very concerned about her well being but said they can ill afford a lawyer at this time. The woman is said to be in constant pain and still nurses her one-year-old daughter.
She has since stated that the police have informed her that she would be charged with harbouring criminals.
“They must be want her to provide information on the other criminals but she ent know nothing,” one relative said.
Another good jod GPF, you guys are showing your worth now.These are the ones need to be taken alive,tried and prosecuted. She ent know nothing eh!!!!!!!!!! She think she is smart and all others are stupid.
hope you will say the when the Roger Khan trial starts next month.
zainno…just shows how folish the SF were in not capturing the bandits alive.
THEY HAD ALL DE INFORMATION WID DEM. NOW THEY DEAD.
They CANNOT get any information from the poor woman unless they do the
usual, you know, sign dis !
IDIOT is this the way to act,did she call the number of skinny phone.
any body can get any body number.Things like these r just makeing things worse.
Have you ever been innocently charge i am sure not,Well i say pray to God not
and ask God to forgive you,He say’s judge not,Dont talk what yu dont know.
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So because someone phone number is in a criminal’s cell phone warrants that type of abuse? This shows that the police force continues to act in a lawless manner,what good would it serve to even bother with attempting to detain anyone at this point when the actual criminal was killed. The police should have done all within their power to bring these men to justice and not have them killed, so it is not illegal to have anyone number in your phone I am responding to your mail I could be a criminal does that give anyone the right to assume that you are a criminal toocome on now you better get smart.
What should she be tried and prosecuted for?
Eh
listen to the story she gave, dont just judge her let the judge do the job. why dont you go back home and deal with the case.
Here we go again !
The saga continues.
My heart goes out to this woman for I can well imagine
what they are going to do to her and her family.
Hopefully some lawyer comes forward pro bono
and hopefully the GHRA enters the affray.
Watch my words:
1. her bruises and swellings will be as a result of “resisting arrest”
2. she will be denied medical attention
3. she will be denied family visits
4. the police WILL REFUSE TO RELEASE ANY INFORMATION ON HER
5. and of course NO BAIL
You all hear me? JUST WATCH MY WORDS
…. who died and made u custiodian of morals and values and to tell others what right from wrong ????????????????????????
Carl, you need to chill out in France. This is not a Perry Mason episode. The Forces are doing what is necessary to gather the intelligence necessary to their investigation. If you believe that interrigations are a made up thing, then I have a bride to sell you.
YEAH THE GRHA THAT U GUYS SAVIOUR
Why don’t u go and represent her, as u deem it as injustice being done
Carl maybe u and your GHRA can retain a lawyer for her
Carl , you should be in the Guyana Police force , Crap you got it all worked out !
If having the phone number of an alleged criminal in your cell phone is equated with harboring a criminal, then Ronald Gajraj, who had Roger Khan and Axel Williams’ phone numbers in his cell phone also harbored a drug baron/organized killer and a hired hitman! Has Ronald Gajraj ever been beaten and charged?
Did the police obtain a phone record from the woman’s cell phone carrier to determine whether the woman was in contact with Skinny after he was allowed to escape?
No one can or should condone criminality of any kind, but it is this douible standard that the government is applying against whom it determines is a criminal and who is not that could be used as fodder for people to resent government’s attitude.
Let the law be applied even-handedly!
WELL SAID ANDY THIS A ONESIDED REGIME.
Gajraj was a minister in the government in charge of National Security who is entitled to have anyone’s telephone number and NOT be assumed to be in cohesion with crime, just like the Crime Chief, the Brigadier, or whoever in Guyana that is charged with the security of the country.
What will you say if you knew that O’Connor and Connelly, two of the most highest ranking FBI agents in NYC were involved (including having telephone numbers, etc.) with “Whitey”, a Mafia Cappo using him as an informant for the FBI during the 1960’s? Would you say that these FBI agents were involved with crime, Or J. Edgar Hoover who had EVERONE in the US info, including telephone numbers was involved with crime?
Well Lucy Simon was no Gajraj, O’Connor or J. Edgar Hoover.
Andy where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise. Even that simple and logical analogy that you advance is is too complex for the cognition of the concretized mindsets offering up the kind of irrational reasonings in here. That is why Guyana is going backward. A country cannot move forward when the leadership does what it knows backward thinking will support.
roger was fighting criminals not harbouring them.and wha mek yall tink he gon sey anyting?
well said Carl. Thats just what will happen
i hope there was a female officer who search the woman and why these
so call police officer can not extract information without torturing these
suspects, its amazing the GHRA need to condem this action by the
joint services they are so unprofessional i hope some lawyer come to
the aid of this poor woman
Here we go again GHRA
when someone come into ur house wipe out ur family including ur kids…and after that u call for the GHRA instead of justice. u gotta be crazy
man u 100% right….but she get what she deserves ..if in fact she did harbour
skinny…cause de man cant get she # if she didnt give it to him..unless is the
prisioner who she went to see give him she #.
on the other hand…they should look out for “the politicians” who skinny and
fineman was working for!
There are a number of people who call my cell phone number whom I have never seen or known or given my number to.There was a particular guy who kept calling my number regularly,for about six months always asking for this name that is not me and I always had to tell him that he has a wrong number.Just Imagine that man in a situation like Skinny would it be right for me and my family to be harassed by the police.It only takes a few minutes for the police to get a record of calls to and from that number from the service provider.
have you ever thought that these criminals had a normal social life before all went wrong, if they looking to arrest people for harbouring why not arrest his child mother…she would have been the top of my list of suspects…anyway whenever anything like this happens innocent people have to start bracing themselves for some serious harrasment…so that the police can look good
I think this woman need to come good with her story,how skinny get her phone #
Xander made a perfect example of what is very possible.
Annover can you recall calling someone number and then you had to
to say to them sorry i have the wrong number ?, or did you ever had to
say to a caller sorry you have the wrong number ?.
the criminals was already killed what is the is the point of harassing, the woman if the police of guyana had established enough trust with the people of guyana we would not have this situation going on right now and then we have people like you making the kind of comments when you know in the real real world that would not happen.
well said
I’ENT KNOW NOTHING
This will be the recurring mantra chanted by any associates of the criminals.
The patent pack of lies told to the police even before the prisoner was taken away culminated with her assertion that Charles had guessed her mobile phone number and anyway, he had never phoned her!
An excellent posting by Blogger STEEL recently specifies things to do in cases like this:
Detailed search of her house and relations houses, the food shop the prisioner runs and any leads from those must be poured over by forensics even if such expertise has to be farmed out to the UK etc.
Take her finances and those of her near relations apart.
If they cannot explain with proof how they got their assets, then those assets must be stripped away.
Bank Accounts and Phone records must be pored over as if Guyana’s future depended on it and any claims of
“I’ent know nothing”
must automatically lead to assumption of covering up guilt.
Telling lies cannot be used as a legal defence.
Let them know it’s not easy spending money by criminal activities they might have condoned and encouraged.
People adore and welcome all the money their criminal friends and families bring. The long arm of the Law Organization must be shown to prevail. These associates may hide but once they have been dug up then justice must prevail. It must prevail in honour of all those viciously slaughtered men, women and children of Lusignan and Bartica.
How heartless it is for families and friends to accept booty knowing they did not work for it, when someone else stole and killed for it, and that someone else will never reach old age.
How heartless it is for these criminals’ wives and girlfriends to continue accepting blood money in exchange for the inevitable death of their criminal spouse.
They don’t care whether the criminals die, for they will simply find someone else and bury that previous memory forever.
The devil says, ” I’ll give you the easy money in your hands, but I want the head of your closest in MY HANDS.”
As Blogger STEEL continues in his great wisdom:
Damn it all!
The bad movies, the vulgar songs, the carrot in the eye advertisements forever shaping your thoughts and desires that society can never see such subtlety influencing them.
Society itself is to share the blame every time a new criminal is bred.
What are the churches and other moralists doing?
I hope that the police will treat the president and some of his ministers the same way when information started to come out of the Roger khan trial. The same treatment should be metted out to those Government officials who keep dipping their hands into the public treasury. Just in passing, what happened to the investigation involving the Presidents brother-in-law who was terrorising his neighbours and then claimed that he was shooting aligators. I thought that this woman is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty or is it a case whereby it changes when certain persons are involved.
Satish the trial of a man named Roger Khan will start soon and then you will hear all who got the drug money in Guyana.
why would she hide upstairs avd why would her brother lie to the police if they havenothing to hide?the police doing the right thing by rounding all those who might have aided and abetted with these killers.i cant wait for the ones arming and encouraging them to be brought to justice.
TRUEGT, don’t waste your time asking those questions. They make the evil look good (at least in their eyes). We all know what is happening. You can imagine what will happen if some of these bloggers are allowed in some way to associate with these criminals and their political supporters. But, it would not happen. The US would not allow another Taliban to fester.
Satish wrote elegantly on the mindset of some of these bloggers. This is the opposite of the American dream – where parents are encourage to work hard for their children and express their dissatisfaction in a responsible way. This is the Guyanese dream – where some parents encourage their children to thief from those who work hard and support criminals for a better life.
“i cant wait for the ones arming and encouraging them to be brought to justice.”
You want the truth! I sincerely hope you can handle it, truegt.
Why harrass the woman now, den don kill de man, why they don’t harrass Gilhouse, who committed attempted murder. dem can really tek advantage on poor people.
Not just taking advantage on poor people. But when you are poor and belong to a certain ethnic group. Gajraj was not arrested and iterrogated when the phone records reveal those names. GILHUYS was involved in a shooting incident involving the use of a firearm for which no licence was current and when requested by the police to lodge same, he walked out of the police station and went his way. Gajraj acknowledge that he had regular contacts with axel wiliams up and until the time of his death. why was he not interrogated to give information on is phantom death squad. Instead, he was promoted.