Comments on: Down and out in New York City: Guyanese immigrants facing hard times http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/ Guyana News, Sports, Businesss and Entertainment Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:55:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ANNA D http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-4/#comment-57523 ANNA D Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:43:02 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-57523 a great Idea to return home but it is scary a great Idea to return home but it is scary

]]> By: kenneth http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-45595 kenneth Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:02:41 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-45595 answering to the crises of ny.it is very sad , but as a guyanese you cannot give up. we always have a saying in gt eat and left bamby i will never give up the place of my birth guyana,ta ta, answering to the crises of ny.it is very sad , but as a guyanese you cannot give up. we always have a saying in gt eat and left bamby i will never give up the place of my birth guyana,ta ta,

]]> By: 8R-DAW http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-4/#comment-45479 8R-DAW Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:57:38 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-45479 You know, Joe, when I was a teenager, I remember a friend of mine in Lamaha gardens projecting a pair of wings to which he claimed he would attach a go-cart engine and would elaborate other devices so he could fly with it. His ideas provided us with a lot of hilarious moments. He was our "crazy Joe." The other day I saw a guy flying a pair of wings across the English channel in a manner very close to what my friend had planned, then I realized he was not "crazy," he was of course a dreamer, and what he saw in his mind's eye was possible to achieve. For this reason I have been paying a lot of attention to the ideas you put forward. I visited lake Titicaca in Peru about two weeks ago, they recieve thousands of visitors every month, what I find interesting is that they use a mixture of ancient culture and present day way of life to take money from the tourists, the tourists also participates in the activities and rituals to feel the experience. It 's not something you can't explain, it's something one has to experience. I also consider your blogs as good reading material. I have studied in the U.S.A but would never live there. I live in Brazil, about 8 hours flying from Guyana, and it gives me a good feeling to know that I am just next door to "home." As a pilot, I've traveled around the world, there are many nice countries in which to live, I feel comfortable here in Brazil. But I do miss fishing in the backdam trenches in Berbice. You know, Joe, when I was a teenager, I remember a friend of mine in Lamaha gardens projecting a pair of wings to which he claimed he would attach a go-cart engine and would elaborate other devices so he could fly with it. His ideas provided us with a lot of hilarious moments. He was our “crazy Joe.” The other day I saw a guy flying a pair of wings across the English channel in a manner very close to what my friend had planned, then I realized he was not “crazy,” he was of course a dreamer, and what he saw in his mind’s eye was possible to achieve. For this reason I have been paying a lot of attention to the ideas you put forward. I visited lake Titicaca in Peru about two weeks ago, they recieve thousands of visitors every month, what I find interesting is that they use a mixture of ancient culture and present day way of life to take money from the tourists, the tourists also participates in the activities and rituals to feel the experience. It ’s not something you can’t explain, it’s something one has to experience. I also consider your blogs as good reading material. I have studied in the U.S.A but would never live there. I live in Brazil, about 8 hours flying from Guyana, and it gives me a good feeling to know that I am just next door to “home.” As a pilot, I’ve traveled around the world, there are many nice countries in which to live, I feel comfortable here in Brazil. But I do miss fishing in the backdam trenches in Berbice.

]]> By: motowngt http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-2/#comment-45330 motowngt Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:39:45 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-45330 F-22 you make some good points, especially when it comes to the neighborhood factor. Im guyanese, and i used to live in Richmond Hill; about 7 years ago we (my family) left NYC and moved to Michigan. Yep I said Michigan, only because my Mom's brother lived down there and believe me it much more easier to live down here opposed to New York. I mean you always hear stories of how hard it is for Guyanese Immigrants to come in New York and make a proper living. Just refer back to the part when Sonia stated how hard it is, working two jobs and trying to make a living but the money is not adding up. You see, my main point is that because NYC is the epicenter of our guyanese community we tend to try our best to live there when it ain't even working. Many of us have families in other states in the U.S., we don't need to make ourselves suffer in NY, we should look elsewhere, where our hard work can go much farther. A good example is house markets, in michigan you can get a good house, with a good neighborhood and schools for about $120,000 as for NY you have to pay about almost 4 times that amount plus the schools you have to worry about. We need to wake up and make the right decisions for our future and not make excuses because of the economy. F-22 you make some good points, especially when it comes to the neighborhood factor. Im guyanese, and i used to live in Richmond Hill; about 7 years ago we (my family) left NYC and moved to Michigan. Yep I said Michigan, only because my Mom’s brother lived down there and believe me it much more easier to live down here opposed to New York. I mean you always hear stories of how hard it is for Guyanese Immigrants to come in New York and make a proper living. Just refer back to the part when Sonia stated how hard it is, working two jobs and trying to make a living but the money is not adding up. You see, my main point is that because NYC is the epicenter of our guyanese community we tend to try our best to live there when it ain’t even working. Many of us have families in other states in the U.S., we don’t need to make ourselves suffer in NY, we should look elsewhere, where our hard work can go much farther. A good example is house markets, in michigan you can get a good house, with a good neighborhood and schools for about $120,000 as for NY you have to pay about almost 4 times that amount plus the schools you have to worry about. We need to wake up and make the right decisions for our future and not make excuses because of the economy.

]]> By: pebbles http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-4/#comment-45323 pebbles Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:59:49 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-45323 Caeser, u obviously brag too much....i bet u don't have anything in Guyana...u probably sold your home to migrate to the USA. u are behaving like u are the only person living in North America. Caeser, u obviously brag too much….i bet u don’t have anything in Guyana…u probably sold your home to migrate to the USA. u are behaving like u are the only person living in North America.

]]> By: EmpressMenen http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-45141 EmpressMenen Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:36:39 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-45141 Thanks for the knowledge provided to me by the GDF in my youth. I saw this coming a mile away after living through the Regan and first bush years. So I sold our condo and invested the money we got into my house in Guyana and Jamaica. While business is so slow here, I had to move my biz from the volatile Spanish Town, where the shottas shoot at the police in the open, and locate the shop and internet cafe in Negril. I am biding my time her and am well prepared for this giddeon swing. Plant the land and you will not suffer. My yams, dasheen and bananas sure look good along with my vege garden. Everyone's yard/kitchen garden should be able to feed them for 5 days. This is how my parents survived in William St Kitty during the 60"s. Lend a helping hand to each other and smile because it will get better. Remember when the british pound was withdrawn and the GT dolla went into free fall shortly after issue? We survived and will do so again.. "Keep it "LIT" Thanks for the knowledge provided to me by the GDF in my youth. I saw this coming a mile away after living through the Regan and first bush years. So I sold our condo and invested the money we got into my house in Guyana and Jamaica. While business is so slow here, I had to move my biz from the volatile Spanish Town, where the shottas shoot at the police in the open, and locate the shop and internet cafe in Negril. I am biding my time her and am well prepared for this giddeon swing. Plant the land and you will not suffer. My yams, dasheen and bananas sure look good along with my vege garden. Everyone’s yard/kitchen garden should be able to feed them for 5 days. This is how my parents survived in William St Kitty during the 60″s.

Lend a helping hand to each other and smile because it will get better. Remember when the british pound was withdrawn and the GT dolla went into free fall shortly after issue? We survived and will do so again..

“Keep it “LIT”

]]> By: Mele http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-44528 Mele Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:25:07 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-44528 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

]]> By: Caesar http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43598 Caesar Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:29:34 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43598 Wish you luck with an official standing in your way for everything you want to do,and good luck for your new security detail. You will need it. Wish you luck with an official standing in your way for everything you want to do,and good luck for your new security detail. You will need it.

]]> By: tiger http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43501 tiger Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:30:56 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43501 VERY FUNNY, GUYS VERY FUNNY, GUYS

]]> By: peter tosh http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-43495 peter tosh Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:23:37 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43495 the immigration feels like people does get freedom in america but share stress guyana my destination for the future the immigration feels like people does get freedom in america but share stress guyana my destination for the future

]]> By: speedy http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43443 speedy Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:34:48 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43443 The horrible economic, political and social situation in the world today is due to all of us ( Americans, Europeans, Asians, West Indians, Guyanese) discarding the values of selflessness, generosity, compassion, thrift, hard work, humility, etc. and adopting the new ways of greed, coveteousness, discontent, wantoness, wastefullness, selfishnessness, etc. My arawak grandmother always told us not to gather (from our natural environment) more resources than we could use efficiently at any point in time. If we did this, she said, we would be exhibiting greed,since we were taking more than we could use. And in doing so we would waste, since we could do nothing with what we could not use. And in times of scarcity, we would suffer. That was our way, in the bush, before "civilisation" visited us and changed our lives forever! Do not misinterpret what I am saying. I am not advocating that we go back to the days of my ancestors from the Orinocco delta, lock, stock and barrel! We need to recognise what has worked for us in the past. Then we need to recognise what we can adopt effeciently from the new knowledge which we generate every day. We must then combine the seasoned, tested, proven and successful ways with the new! Getting the mixture right is the challenge for modern man! And the explosive development of technology in the last fifty years has been more a hindrance than a help in our quest to strike that happy mean! I worked with Lehman Brothers for eight years as a researcher and left my job and America to return home because I was constantly reminded of the admonitions of my grandmother. The "eyes" she gave me when I was a child made me see, long in advance, the terrible tragedy that has now befallen the modern world. Joe is right! We have to go back to basics. If we don't, the suffering which we are now experiencing will pale into insignificance, compared to what we shall in the very near future.....if we do not change our ways..and dust off for use , some of the values which we learnt in the little villages , all over the world. It always freaked me out...living in an apartment building which housed hundreds of people...and most of us were not even acquaintances! No man is an island ! United we stand, divided we fall. The new individualism now has us lurching like drunks, day in day out..looking desperately for a way out of the mess we have created for ourselves. If we unite, like we used to, in the villages of Buxton, Mabaruma, Nappi, and countless others, we shall overcome!! May God help us! The horrible economic, political and social situation in the world today is due to all of us ( Americans, Europeans, Asians, West Indians, Guyanese) discarding the values of selflessness, generosity, compassion, thrift, hard work, humility, etc. and adopting the new ways of greed, coveteousness, discontent, wantoness, wastefullness, selfishnessness, etc. My arawak grandmother always told us not to gather (from our natural environment) more resources than we could use efficiently at any point in time. If we did this, she said, we would be exhibiting greed,since we were taking more than we could use. And in doing so we would waste, since we could do nothing with what we could not use. And in times of scarcity, we would suffer. That was our way, in the bush, before “civilisation” visited us and changed our lives forever! Do not misinterpret what I am saying. I am not advocating that we go back to the days of my ancestors from the Orinocco delta, lock, stock and barrel! We need to recognise what has worked for us in the past. Then we need to recognise what we can adopt effeciently from the new knowledge which we generate every day. We must then combine the seasoned, tested, proven and successful ways with the new! Getting the mixture right is the challenge for modern man! And the explosive development of technology in the last fifty years has been more a hindrance than a help in our quest to strike that happy mean! I worked with Lehman Brothers for eight years as a researcher and left my job and America to return home because I was constantly reminded of the admonitions of my grandmother. The “eyes” she gave me when I was a child made me see, long in advance, the terrible tragedy that has now befallen the modern world. Joe is right! We have to go back to basics. If we don’t, the suffering which we are now experiencing will pale into insignificance, compared to what we shall in the very near future…..if we do not change our ways..and dust off for use , some of the values which we learnt in the little villages , all over the world. It always freaked me out…living in an apartment building which housed hundreds of people…and most of us were not even acquaintances! No man is an island ! United we stand, divided we fall. The new individualism now has us lurching like drunks, day in day out..looking desperately for a way out of the mess we have created for ourselves. If we unite, like we used to, in the villages of Buxton, Mabaruma, Nappi, and countless others, we shall overcome!! May God help us!

]]> By: paul http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43423 paul Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:56:11 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43423 joe do not waste time take eliose offer GUYANA need alot of joe right now and we can do with some plumber too joe do not waste time take eliose offer
GUYANA need alot of joe right now and we can do with some plumber too

]]> By: julianmurraycarryl http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43132 julianmurraycarryl Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:40:40 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43132 Dude, We have just interesting guyanese folks with the knowledge and know-how to make things better for our little dear guyana. But the big question is HOW, WHERE AND WHEN and by WHOM I would love to go back and have a jolly nice time there too but...no way for now. Dude,

We have just interesting guyanese folks with the knowledge and know-how to make things better for our little dear guyana.

But the big question is HOW, WHERE AND WHEN and by WHOM

I would love to go back and have a jolly nice time there too but…no way for now.

]]> By: eloise http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43080 eloise Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:13:47 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43080 JOE MY FRIEND I MEAN IT, IT IS NOT A JOKE GOOD MOURNING TO YOU I AM GOING TO WORK. AND DON,T FORGET WHAT I SAID GUYANA NEADS YOU. JOE
MY FRIEND I MEAN IT,
IT IS NOT A JOKE
GOOD MOURNING TO YOU I AM GOING TO WORK.
AND DON,T FORGET WHAT I SAID
GUYANA NEADS YOU.

]]> By: parmanand dholichand http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43072 parmanand dholichand Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:20:30 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43072 america do not stay down for long.it is the richest and most powerful country in the world.the constitution of america guaranteens freedom.america is beautiful.any foreigner who bad talk america should not come to america or if they are in america they should go back to where they came from.america is one of the largest democraciesin the world.most guyanese are doing well in america.they are not afraid of crimes.i am doing well and i love america.GOD BLESS AMERICA.GOD BLESS THE WORLD. america do not stay down for long.it is the richest and most powerful country in the world.the constitution of america guaranteens freedom.america is beautiful.any foreigner who bad talk america should not come to america or if they are in america they should go back to where they came from.america is one of the largest democraciesin the world.most guyanese are doing well in america.they are not afraid of crimes.i am doing well and i love america.GOD BLESS AMERICA.GOD BLESS THE WORLD.

]]> By: Caesar http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-43041 Caesar Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:43:31 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43041 Look dudes,be realistic. How can Guyana be home when you do not live there? Wake up.Guyana is not my home. It was once. I was born there,lived as a child,a young man,then I took one look a the landscape one day ,and left because I wanted to live a better life in a better country. The USA. Where everyone who can,are still lining up for visas. All over the world.Flatly,I have a choice to choose where I want to live, and where to call home. And it is not Guyana.I do visit Guyana, I have family property, but Guyana will never again be called my home.Your perspective will be different ,and of course will not be mine.Point of note. How many people in Guyana can write this down on a piece opf paper."I have what I want.' I can do that. Look dudes,be realistic. How can Guyana be home when you do not live there? Wake up.Guyana is not my home. It was once. I was born there,lived as a child,a young man,then I took one look a the landscape one day ,and left because I wanted to live a better life in a better country. The USA. Where everyone who can,are still lining up for visas. All over the world.Flatly,I have a choice to choose where I want to live, and where to call home. And it is not Guyana.I do visit Guyana, I have family property, but Guyana will never again be called my home.Your perspective will be different ,and of course will not be mine.Point of note. How many people in Guyana can write this down on a piece opf paper.”I have what I want.’ I can do that.

]]> By: Joe Coxall http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-43009 Joe Coxall Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:42:32 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-43009 Eloise, I dont believe this, you are actually going to give me a piece of your land. Where is Carl Veecock? eat your heart out, my girl friend Eloise is going to give me some land, and I am going to marry her, make a dozen kids and live happily ever after. Carl you can be our bestman. LOL Thank you Eloise. Joe. Eloise, I dont believe this, you are actually going to give me a piece of your land.

Where is Carl Veecock? eat your heart out, my girl friend Eloise is going to give me some land, and I am going to marry her, make a dozen kids and live happily ever after.

Carl you can be our bestman. LOL

Thank you Eloise.

Joe.

]]> By: evileyes http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-2/#comment-42990 evileyes Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:04:53 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42990 wow thanks...i just learned something new wow thanks…i just learned something new

]]> By: GTGIRL30 http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-42973 GTGIRL30 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:55:23 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42973 CAESAR SAYS THERE'S NOTHING IN GUYANA TO GO BACK TO, LET ME SAY SOMETHING NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE OR WHERE WE ARE GOING HOME IS HOME. GUYANA MAY HAVE VIOLENCE AND CRAP GOING ON, BUT LIKE MACK SAID JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE POLITICS, DRUG DEALERS AND IN YOUR HOME AT NIGHT AND ALL IS WELL CAESAR SAYS THERE’S NOTHING IN GUYANA TO GO BACK TO, LET ME SAY SOMETHING NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE OR WHERE WE ARE GOING HOME IS HOME.
GUYANA MAY HAVE VIOLENCE AND CRAP GOING ON, BUT LIKE MACK SAID JUST STAY AWAY FROM THE POLITICS, DRUG DEALERS AND IN YOUR HOME AT NIGHT AND ALL IS WELL

]]> By: Zoe http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-42971 Zoe Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:46:00 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42971 That sounds good pun paper but the reality is...as soon as u come back from "foreign", you will be an easy target for robbery, etc... That sounds good pun paper but the reality is…as soon as u come back from “foreign”, you will be an easy target for robbery, etc…

]]> By: MACK http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-42964 MACK Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:26:24 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42964 Exactly. My pickup will be there in December. Exactly. My pickup will be there in December.

]]> By: gopie http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-1/#comment-42870 gopie Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:08:35 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42870 i do understand what you mean to say,be careful your context are confusing that is why you are getting negative replies.i am in the stock market business,so i know what is going on.........THE WALLS OF WALL STREET HAS FALLEN DOWN....in fact, the rate at which things were going, i know there would be a crash but i did not expect it for this year,.,....... i do understand what you mean to say,be careful your context are confusing that is why you are getting negative replies.i am in the stock market business,so i know what is going on………THE WALLS OF WALL STREET HAS FALLEN DOWN….in fact, the rate at which things were going, i know there would be a crash but i did not expect it for this year,.,…….

]]> By: RobbyG http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-3/#comment-42869 RobbyG Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:03:15 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42869 Barack the Vote .. Vote Obama for President .. Barack the Vote .. Vote Obama for President ..

]]> By: evileyes http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/10/19/down-and-out-in-new-york-city-guyanese-immigrants-facing-hard-times/comment-page-2/#comment-42757 evileyes Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:19:50 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=27478#comment-42757 malaika06::::ouch de truth hut eh???if yuh cant teck um den get out and dont read.....yuh too fasss to get in ppl business.... malaika06::::ouch de truth hut eh???if yuh cant teck um den get out and dont read…..yuh too fasss to get in ppl business….

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