Comments on: Man accused of stealing empty bottles asks for ‘lil community service’ http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/ Guyana News, Sports, Businesss and Entertainment Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:31:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Leslyn http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-61918 Leslyn Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:40:05 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-61918 So true, the justice system in Guyana (assuming there is one) is nothing more than a joke. And to think that the taxpayers are actually paying for this. No wonder the country is in such a mess financially and every which way. This is the main reason the Guyana economy has been on life support for so many years and counting. And to think I call this place home; just wish the government (if there is a governing body) would listen to the cries of the masses. So true, the justice system in Guyana (assuming there is one) is nothing more than a joke. And to think that the taxpayers are actually paying for this. No wonder the country is in such a mess financially and every which way. This is the main reason the Guyana economy has been on life support for so many years and counting. And to think I call this place home; just wish the government (if there is a governing body) would listen to the cries of the masses.

]]> By: Coco http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-60043 Coco Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:43:48 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-60043 With all the crimes that's going on in Guyana, and people getting a slap on the wrist, this one is for the books, I say for his community service he should get two years, of hard labour and start cleaning up the city, from the photos I've seen Georgetown needs a good cleaning. If I were the judge, he would have to start at 4am and finish at 10 pm, with just time to eat, & sleep and nothing else. It seems every new day a new crime is committed, what's wrong with these people. With all the crimes that’s going on in Guyana, and people getting a slap on the wrist, this one is for the books, I say for his community service he should get two years, of hard labour and start cleaning up the city, from the photos I’ve seen Georgetown needs a good cleaning. If I were the judge, he would have to start at 4am and finish at 10 pm, with just time to eat, & sleep and nothing else. It seems every new day a new crime is committed, what’s wrong with these people.

]]> By: Wiffy http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-59558 Wiffy Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:25:27 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-59558 Some real crazy reasoning I completely agree! Some real crazy reasoning I completely agree!

]]> By: paw2180 http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-59412 paw2180 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:29:24 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-59412 Leh de man do some community service picking up empty bottles around de place and also help out with the cleaning of the cemetery and the brickdam lockups Leh de man do some community service picking up empty bottles around de place and also help out with the cleaning of the cemetery and the brickdam lockups

]]> By: Gtprincess http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-59340 Gtprincess Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:06:03 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-59340 Never feel sorry for a thief just like never feel sorry for a mouse, they will destroy your house for no reason, a thief will kill you in your own house. Never feel sorry for a thief just like never feel sorry for a mouse, they will destroy your house for no reason, a thief will kill you in your own house.

]]> By: charles http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58747 charles Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:54:07 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58747 GT can be tough and life is hard, but being that tough on someone for simple larceny is cruel and unjust. What he did is wrong, but you don't know this individual's situation. Maybe the brother was hungry, and people make screwed up decisions when their back is up against the wall. Been there - done that. So, maybe you can find some sympathy and not judge so harshly. GT can be tough and life is hard, but being that tough on someone for simple larceny is cruel and unjust. What he did is wrong, but you don’t know this individual’s situation. Maybe the brother was hungry, and people make screwed up decisions when their back is up against the wall. Been there – done that. So, maybe you can find some sympathy and not judge so harshly.

]]> By: Babs Ingar http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-58601 Babs Ingar Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:02:47 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58601 Let me start out by saing stealing is never a goog thing ! But to give a man such a high bail,is very lopsided,when there are hard core criminals getting what I would consider a slap on the wrist, The fact that a case or two of sweet drink bottles are worth $ 2000! is ludacrous. Poor man I hope he gets community service indeed! what will jail do for the one whom the bottles were taken from? Let me start out by saing stealing is never a goog thing ! But to give a man such a high bail,is very lopsided,when there are hard core criminals getting what I would consider a slap on the wrist, The fact that a case or two of sweet drink bottles are worth $ 2000! is ludacrous. Poor man I hope he gets community service indeed! what will jail do for the one whom the bottles were taken from?

]]> By: quibian http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-58530 quibian Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:33:28 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58530 give him a year community service to clean the prison's toilets. give him a year community service to clean the prison’s toilets.

]]> By: Richard Lewis http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-58523 Richard Lewis Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:19:25 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58523 Judge: Thanks for the reply. It makes good sense and enlightens me to some extent of reasons for actions taken by the police and judiciary. However, I am still wondering what would be the case if a murder accused is in custody and the 72 hour limitation is fast approaching. Would s/he be let go on station bail or would bail be set so high that the money could not be raised, and then what??? Judge:

Thanks for the reply. It makes good sense and enlightens me to some extent of reasons for actions taken by the police and judiciary. However, I am still wondering what would be the case if a murder accused is in custody and the 72 hour limitation is fast approaching. Would s/he be let go on station bail or would bail be set so high that the money could not be raised, and then what???

]]> By: tyronemiller http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58421 tyronemiller Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:25:33 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58421 I think this guy should been sentence to rehab ......only junkies thief stuff like that I think this guy should been sentence to rehab ……only junkies thief stuff like that

]]> By: Judge http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58351 Judge Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:14:18 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58351 Mr Lewis, 1.The police set bail if the matter has a lengthy process and they have to gather more evidence..they have a law to prevent them from holding someone for more than 72 hrs.in so doing they have to be sure that the accused returns to the station while the investigation is going on. 2.A magistrate sets bail based on background checks which the prosecution is armed with..all they want is to ensure that the accused returns to answer the charges 3. Each offence carries minimum and maximum penalities..so if you are a frequent law breaker the penalty will be higher. 4. This will depends on the evidences revealed in court against you..Different magistrate may have different impression of accused..But there is max. and minimum. How fair is the system? as fair as any other.. Mr Lewis, 1.The police set bail if the matter has a lengthy process and they have to gather more evidence..they have a law to prevent them from holding someone for more than 72 hrs.in so doing they have to be sure that the accused returns to the station while the investigation is going on.
2.A magistrate sets bail based on background checks which the prosecution is armed with..all they want is to ensure that the accused returns to answer the charges
3. Each offence carries minimum and maximum penalities..so if you are a frequent law breaker the penalty will be higher.
4. This will depends on the evidences revealed in court against you..Different magistrate may have different impression of accused..But there is max. and minimum.
How fair is the system? as fair as any other..

]]> By: chris http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58337 chris Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:15:50 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58337 at least , he'd be saving the taxpayers money if he did community service. god knows this country needs cleaning up. let the man clean some trenches, the rainy season is coming. let him wash some churches or schools. do things that the government would have had to pay much more than two grand to do. at least , he’d be saving the taxpayers money if he did community service. god knows this country needs cleaning up. let the man clean some trenches, the rainy season is coming. let him wash some churches or schools. do things that the government would have had to pay much more than two grand to do.

]]> By: dove http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58328 dove Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:47:34 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58328 I stand corrected - "opinion" I stand corrected – “opinion”

]]> By: carese http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58315 carese Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:16:39 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58315 this sound like de same mad that stole de toilet bowel this sound like de same mad that stole de toilet bowel

]]> By: good guy http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58259 good guy Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:52:21 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58259 Common Madam Magistrate --let the guy have his wish for community service . (1)He is paying back to the community ,(2) --he is not wasting tax payers money to house and feed him in jail ,(3) the jails are overcrowded , (4) it was a petty crime . Give the guy a break . Common Madam Magistrate –let the guy have his wish for community service . (1)He is paying back to the community ,(2) –he is not wasting tax payers money to house and feed him in jail ,(3) the jails are overcrowded , (4) it was a petty crime . Give the guy a break .

]]> By: Caesar Agustus http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58206 Caesar Agustus Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:27:25 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58206 I would say give this man 500 hours ommunity service cleaning areas around Eve Leary and Ayanganna. I would say give this man 500 hours ommunity service cleaning areas around Eve Leary and Ayanganna.

]]> By: anand http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58205 anand Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:27:17 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58205 What is wrong with you banna?You are condoning crime?He steals another persons property, is that ok with you? How would you feel if it was your bottles he steal?I What is wrong with you banna?You are condoning crime?He steals another persons property, is that ok with you?
How would you feel if it was your bottles he steal?I

]]> By: anand http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58204 anand Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:23:59 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58204 It may be simple larceny but if he got off lightly, he would only graduate to other crime which may not be simple.some incarceration for this crime is warranted so he knows not to take whats not his. It may be simple larceny but if he got off lightly, he would only graduate to other crime which may not be simple.some incarceration for this crime is warranted so he knows not to take whats not his.

]]> By: Arnold http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58156 Arnold Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:07:10 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58156 Sr Judge, you said it correct! it should be amended, CASE CLOSED!!! Sr Judge, you said it correct! it should be amended, CASE CLOSED!!!

]]> By: evileyes http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58153 evileyes Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:02:03 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58153 he is nothing but a thief and will continue to be a thief.... he is nothing but a thief and will continue to be a thief….

]]> By: LINDENBANNA http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58150 LINDENBANNA Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:28:40 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58150 Judge you know the system well, and you are so correct.....It's like bad credit or no credit, you pay a higher intrest rate. Judge you know the system well, and you are so correct…..It’s like bad credit or no credit, you pay a higher intrest rate.

]]> By: LINDENBANNA http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58149 LINDENBANNA Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:26:29 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58149 Stealing is a very serious crime,,,it is an invasion of your privacy...ever got something stolen from you like your car or your apartment broken into,,,this is serious. Stealing is a very serious crime,,,it is an invasion of your privacy…ever got something stolen from you like your car or your apartment broken into,,,this is serious.

]]> By: LINDENBANNA http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-58147 LINDENBANNA Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:22:21 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58147 Isn't that the craziest thing you've ever heard??. But let me tell you, I overheard a conversation where someone was asking a businessman to hire his nephew who was just released from jail and needed a job.The businessman replied ,was he in jail for stealing, and the guy said no, he was in jail for selling drugs, to which the business man replied I'll hire him as long as long as it wasn't for stealing. Isn’t that the craziest thing you’ve ever heard??. But let me tell you, I overheard a conversation where someone was asking a businessman to hire his nephew who was just released from jail and needed a job.The businessman replied ,was he in jail for stealing, and the guy said no, he was in jail for selling drugs, to which the business man replied I’ll hire him as long as long as it wasn’t for stealing.

]]> By: Richard Lewis http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/stories/11/21/man-accused-of-stealing-empty-bottles-asks-for-%e2%80%98lil-community-service%e2%80%99/comment-page-2/#comment-58146 Richard Lewis Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:21:28 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=31106#comment-58146 The way I see it is that there must be some rationale for the way that justice is administered in Guyana. I cannot undertand: - why is the police allowed to set bail for persons who are in custody and who have not yet been to court: why are they allowed to set bail conditions, period. - why is there the appearance of no regulated way in which magistrates set bail - what criteria magistrates use for jailing people convicted of minor offences while freeing those guilty of major crimes - is there a set of guidelines for imposing monetary fines, anfdif there is why do we see different fines being imposed by different magistrates for similar crimes. In other words, how fair is the legal system in Guyana? The way I see it is that there must be some rationale for the way that justice is administered in Guyana. I cannot undertand:

- why is the police allowed to set bail for persons who are in custody and who
have not yet been to court: why are they allowed to set bail conditions, period.
- why is there the appearance of no regulated way in which magistrates set bail
- what criteria magistrates use for jailing people convicted of minor offences
while freeing those guilty of major crimes
- is there a set of guidelines for imposing monetary fines, anfdif there is why do
we see different fines being imposed by different magistrates for similar
crimes.

In other words, how fair is the legal system in Guyana?

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