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		<title>By: M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett-Harris-Morales-Bennett(-60)</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-174983</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett-Harris-Morales-Bennett(-60)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same email address, but easy to change the blogging name, just type in a different one. But Kaietuer remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same email address, but easy to change the blogging name, just type in a different one. But Kaietuer remains.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett-Harris-Morales-Bennett(-60)</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-2/#comment-174981</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett-Harris-Morales-Bennett(-60)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been voting since &#039;92 and every time I&#039;ve cast my ballot it was one man one vote. Will do so again in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been voting since &#8216;92 and every time I&#8217;ve cast my ballot it was one man one vote. Will do so again in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar Agustus</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-174490</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar Agustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Darwin, you go first.By the way, how many email adresses do you have Hacket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Darwin, you go first.By the way, how many email adresses do you have Hacket?</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar Agustus</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-2/#comment-173225</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar Agustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader YOU CAN LIVE FOREVER. Make a decision based on trial.One man one vote has not been tried in Guyana yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader YOU CAN LIVE FOREVER. Make a decision based on trial.One man one vote has not been tried in Guyana yet.</p>
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		<title>By: csingh</title>
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		<dc:creator>csingh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaul  says: 
June 28, 2009 at 4:55 pm
&quot;I would like to know if we have a genuine race problem amoung our citizens or whether politicians use the race card for political benefits.&quot;


Guyana has always had a race problem. A few interacial breeding doesen&#039;t change anything. I can&#039;t think of anything that has changed the way the two races really think about each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaul  says:<br />
June 28, 2009 at 4:55 pm<br />
&#8220;I would like to know if we have a genuine race problem amoung our citizens or whether politicians use the race card for political benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Guyana has always had a race problem. A few interacial breeding doesen&#8217;t change anything. I can&#8217;t think of anything that has changed the way the two races really think about each other.</p>
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		<title>By: NotFromGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotFromGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heredity transcends territorial boundaries. A Guyanese born in the US still has Guyanese DNA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heredity transcends territorial boundaries. A Guyanese born in the US still has Guyanese DNA.</p>
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		<title>By: michael tannassee</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael tannassee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... I seh it bfoe but ah gon seh it agane ,, anytime ,, or mose ah de time ,, y&#039;al en see me mek a comment on any issue by SN ,, is either caz ,, it is too damn silly an issue to indulge ,, or that my comment is so harsh ,, relative to the stupidity ,, that SN/moderator/AXER mek fishfood wid um ,, some ah dem wah rite&#039;in dem lang-lang lettah ,, fuh me ,, just de caption is enuff fuh mek me laff !....

like phillips an &quot;his&quot; measurement of the &quot;Amazon Rain Forest&quot; that is pretty much de size of the continental USA minus california and texas !... and deze ppl iz being heralded ,, by some who ,, from their comments to the mumbo-jumbo is of much similarity !.... 

one comment i read ,, to Bakr&#039;s letter in todays letter coloumn from ... damn ! i fuhget de gentleman&#039;s name now ,, but it&#039;s indepth ,, in what he said abt Abu mail.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. I seh it bfoe but ah gon seh it agane ,, anytime ,, or mose ah de time ,, y&#8217;al en see me mek a comment on any issue by SN ,, is either caz ,, it is too damn silly an issue to indulge ,, or that my comment is so harsh ,, relative to the stupidity ,, that SN/moderator/AXER mek fishfood wid um ,, some ah dem wah rite&#8217;in dem lang-lang lettah ,, fuh me ,, just de caption is enuff fuh mek me laff !&#8230;.</p>
<p>like phillips an &#8220;his&#8221; measurement of the &#8220;Amazon Rain Forest&#8221; that is pretty much de size of the continental USA minus california and texas !&#8230; and deze ppl iz being heralded ,, by some who ,, from their comments to the mumbo-jumbo is of much similarity !&#8230;. </p>
<p>one comment i read ,, to Bakr&#8217;s letter in todays letter coloumn from &#8230; damn ! i fuhget de gentleman&#8217;s name now ,, but it&#8217;s indepth ,, in what he said abt Abu mail&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: You Can Live Forever (-63)</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Can Live Forever (-63)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are different ways of collating the votes from one man/woman - proportional representation, first-past-the-post, and others - that can yield different outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are different ways of collating the votes from one man/woman &#8211; proportional representation, first-past-the-post, and others &#8211; that can yield different outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: You Can Live Forever(-63)</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172695</link>
		<dc:creator>You Can Live Forever(-63)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaul, there are persons who can argue very persuasively for one or the other, even to trotting out and parading figures to support their view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaul, there are persons who can argue very persuasively for one or the other, even to trotting out and parading figures to support their view.</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar Agustus</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172653</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar Agustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader Gaul,for your enquiry,a combination of citizenry and politicians push the race issue.However,that can be averted at a srroke.South Africa.One man one vote.If one man one vote is good for South Africa, it is good for Guyana.Get the elections going then,and nobody should have anything to say about the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader Gaul,for your enquiry,a combination of citizenry and politicians push the race issue.However,that can be averted at a srroke.South Africa.One man one vote.If one man one vote is good for South Africa, it is good for Guyana.Get the elections going then,and nobody should have anything to say about the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaul</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172578</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know if we have a genuine race problem amoung our citizens or whether politicians use the race card for political benefits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know if we have a genuine race problem amoung our citizens or whether politicians use the race card for political benefits</p>
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		<title>By: Blackrattlesnake</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172253</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackrattlesnake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact....he didn&#039;t.The main thrust or objective in banning flour and other foodstuffs was to get Guyanese to use local products....and avoid the use of foreign exchange....just stop and imagine for a moment....had we moved in this direction we would today have been indeed the bread basket of the West Indies.....unfortunately.....the maturity of politicians in Guyana has been sorely lacking.....and none puts Country first......Actions &#039;speak&#039; louder than words.....and for 17 years this present PPP Govt has been deadly silent....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact&#8230;.he didn&#8217;t.The main thrust or objective in banning flour and other foodstuffs was to get Guyanese to use local products&#8230;.and avoid the use of foreign exchange&#8230;.just stop and imagine for a moment&#8230;.had we moved in this direction we would today have been indeed the bread basket of the West Indies&#8230;..unfortunately&#8230;..the maturity of politicians in Guyana has been sorely lacking&#8230;..and none puts Country first&#8230;&#8230;Actions &#8217;speak&#8217; louder than words&#8230;..and for 17 years this present PPP Govt has been deadly silent&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bakr</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we have to recognise that talking about who stoked racism and who quenched it goes beyond who offerred to share the government with whom at what point. Panday shared the government in  Trinidad at one point and then jumped out claiming the racism was too bad and playing the card. 

The question is, did Cheddie dissuade Indians from believing the PNC was driven by other things than racism in banning flour? Did he speak out clearly against Indian racism and prejudice. Perhaps he did. We need to know. In any case I am sending a reponse this newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we have to recognise that talking about who stoked racism and who quenched it goes beyond who offerred to share the government with whom at what point. Panday shared the government in  Trinidad at one point and then jumped out claiming the racism was too bad and playing the card. </p>
<p>The question is, did Cheddie dissuade Indians from believing the PNC was driven by other things than racism in banning flour? Did he speak out clearly against Indian racism and prejudice. Perhaps he did. We need to know. In any case I am sending a reponse this newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: You Can Live Forever(-65)</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Can Live Forever(-65)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facts cannot speak; they are dumb. Only people can speak what they perceive and interpret as the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facts cannot speak; they are dumb. Only people can speak what they perceive and interpret as the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar Agustus</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172103</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar Agustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A blanket statement will cover all the issues.Are you ready?Guyana&#039;s problems is inherent in the Guyanese DNA.Unless we have Guyanese born abroad become leaders of Guyana,the gene pool will continue to churn out the same likeness of material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blanket statement will cover all the issues.Are you ready?Guyana&#8217;s problems is inherent in the Guyanese DNA.Unless we have Guyanese born abroad become leaders of Guyana,the gene pool will continue to churn out the same likeness of material.</p>
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		<title>By: Caesar Agustus</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-172099</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar Agustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why sould be a debate about facts? No debate is necessary.Facts speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why sould be a debate about facts? No debate is necessary.Facts speak for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politics, history, religion, philosophy are subjective desciplines. Subject matter in each of them can be easily slanted or skewed to suite one&#039;s agenda, to win over hearts and souls, or to defend hogwash ideas or failed policies. These desciplines are not necessarily on facts, but what the author(s) say about the facts.
Gentlemen, though there is the need to give both sides of the story in an objective way, I can say that any &quot;fact&quot; at all is the way the victims feel about the policies and politics that are/were practiced in Guyana. 
The hoplessness, the pain, the anxiety. Watching a mother cry, not knowing where the next meal is going to come from for her children. Yes my friends. I was there. I walk this path. I seen many such cases. How do you propose to solve this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politics, history, religion, philosophy are subjective desciplines. Subject matter in each of them can be easily slanted or skewed to suite one&#8217;s agenda, to win over hearts and souls, or to defend hogwash ideas or failed policies. These desciplines are not necessarily on facts, but what the author(s) say about the facts.<br />
Gentlemen, though there is the need to give both sides of the story in an objective way, I can say that any &#8220;fact&#8221; at all is the way the victims feel about the policies and politics that are/were practiced in Guyana.<br />
The hoplessness, the pain, the anxiety. Watching a mother cry, not knowing where the next meal is going to come from for her children. Yes my friends. I was there. I walk this path. I seen many such cases. How do you propose to solve this?</p>
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		<title>By: ASingh</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASingh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow---such arrogrance &quot; he is not qualified to be the judge in his own case&quot;---yes this is the arrogance we live with.

As i suggest to Mr. Kwayana (and it was not published yesterday) this is the opportunity to bring all the facts out and write as often as possible to make it clear and the historical circumstances in which the occassion led to the played out history.

Write often or we will be drowned by the lies in the &quot;West on Trial&quot; and the &quot;Oral Historyof the PPP &quot; by Birbalsingh ( more like PPP gossip to make themselves arrogant like Ralph.)

So Mr. Kwayana plese write to erase the arrogance of this letter writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8212;such arrogrance &#8221; he is not qualified to be the judge in his own case&#8221;&#8212;yes this is the arrogance we live with.</p>
<p>As i suggest to Mr. Kwayana (and it was not published yesterday) this is the opportunity to bring all the facts out and write as often as possible to make it clear and the historical circumstances in which the occassion led to the played out history.</p>
<p>Write often or we will be drowned by the lies in the &#8220;West on Trial&#8221; and the &#8220;Oral Historyof the PPP &#8221; by Birbalsingh ( more like PPP gossip to make themselves arrogant like Ralph.)</p>
<p>So Mr. Kwayana plese write to erase the arrogance of this letter writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramkaran, I detect a lack of intellectual curiosity on your part. Yes, hide the history from the soup drinkers. Be gone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramkaran, I detect a lack of intellectual curiosity on your part. Yes, hide the history from the soup drinkers. Be gone!</p>
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		<title>By: You Can Live Forever(-65)</title>
		<link>http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/06/27/the-debate-is-about-facts-within-living-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-171952</link>
		<dc:creator>You Can Live Forever(-65)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is needed is to write down the facts as we see them from each of our own perspectives in books and publish them before we leave this existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is needed is to write down the facts as we see them from each of our own perspectives in books and publish them before we leave this existence.</p>
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		<title>By: cohore</title>
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		<dc:creator>cohore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramkarran&#039;s frequent interventions on this issue confirm his ineliegibility for the presidency of this country.  Ramkarran is a product of the bitter ethnic battle between the PPP and PNC and demonstrates in his narrative his inability to move the debate beyond the narrow ethnic divide that has moved Guyana backwards as its Carribean neighbours have made substantial progress.  We need to hear from this emerging champion of this regime what his position is on extra-judicial killings, corruption, and the range of other glaring issues in this society.  I suppose, in response to this he will run for cover claiming his status of Speaker precludes comment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramkarran&#8217;s frequent interventions on this issue confirm his ineliegibility for the presidency of this country.  Ramkarran is a product of the bitter ethnic battle between the PPP and PNC and demonstrates in his narrative his inability to move the debate beyond the narrow ethnic divide that has moved Guyana backwards as its Carribean neighbours have made substantial progress.  We need to hear from this emerging champion of this regime what his position is on extra-judicial killings, corruption, and the range of other glaring issues in this society.  I suppose, in response to this he will run for cover claiming his status of Speaker precludes comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a pity that u choose to no longer be a part of this discussion. Your main arguments or facts to demonstrate the PPP had attempted racial reconcilliation by inviting Dr. Hinds to join the PCD are at best weak.  If the PPP was and still is interested in racial reconcilliation then it must demonstrate this internally and on a daily basis, and not by making superficial gestures.  The fact is the way Mr. Jagan went after Mr. Kwayana after he refused to join his slate showed his contempt for genuine reconcilliation. The fact that with Mr. Sam Hinds as Prime Minister for 17yrs has not brought about any reconcilliation, as a matter of fact things have gotten worse. As it relates to who should appologise, for me its not necessary. If u r sorry about something u did I should not have to ask for an appology and if u r sorry then u won&#039;t continue to commit the same acts under different guises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a pity that u choose to no longer be a part of this discussion. Your main arguments or facts to demonstrate the PPP had attempted racial reconcilliation by inviting Dr. Hinds to join the PCD are at best weak.  If the PPP was and still is interested in racial reconcilliation then it must demonstrate this internally and on a daily basis, and not by making superficial gestures.  The fact is the way Mr. Jagan went after Mr. Kwayana after he refused to join his slate showed his contempt for genuine reconcilliation. The fact that with Mr. Sam Hinds as Prime Minister for 17yrs has not brought about any reconcilliation, as a matter of fact things have gotten worse. As it relates to who should appologise, for me its not necessary. If u r sorry about something u did I should not have to ask for an appology and if u r sorry then u won&#8217;t continue to commit the same acts under different guises.</p>
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