Comments on: How does Dr Persaud reconcile these disturbing migration figures with his claim of the growing middle class? http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/ Guyana News, Sports, Businesss and Entertainment Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:33:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: GUYFLAG http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-233574 GUYFLAG Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:20:11 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233574 TUCHE' RAJENDRA, THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULL AND MATURE VIEWS RE THE SUBJECT RAISED BY DR. PERSAUD. IN WHICH YOU SEEMED TO ADDRESS THE MOOD OF NEGATIVITY THAT PERVADES IN GUYANESE AT HOME AND ABROAD,.. AND ALSO SOME OF THE UNDERLYING CAUSATIVE FACTORS.... it is refreshing to realise there are still some of us who can dispassionately address the issues..... and refuse to be drawn into debate with those who on a daily basis.. exhibit their affliction.. that could be classified as "CRANEAL CRAMP".. on this site... I have already forwarded my comments on the issue... but just thought that folks like you should know that you would be afforded the sobriquet OF "SOUP DRINKER",..by those among us who have taken upon themselves the burden of awarding titles... . SHOULD YOU glance back, you would notice a certain contributor.. has bestowed the honour on DR. PERSAUD.. so RAJENDRA YOU MAY JOIN AN EXALTED GROUP... the same gentleman, used the opprtunity to tell us all that he graduated from a university, and DR. PERSAUD would not have made it at that UNIVERSITY... WELL.. one can only say... "rubbish in--- rubbish out".... peace.. TUCHE’ RAJENDRA, THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULL AND MATURE VIEWS RE THE SUBJECT RAISED BY DR. PERSAUD. IN WHICH YOU SEEMED TO ADDRESS THE MOOD OF NEGATIVITY THAT PERVADES IN GUYANESE AT HOME AND ABROAD,.. AND ALSO SOME OF THE UNDERLYING CAUSATIVE FACTORS…. it is refreshing to realise there are still some of us who can dispassionately address the issues….. and refuse to be drawn into debate with those who on a daily basis.. exhibit their affliction.. that could be classified as “CRANEAL CRAMP”.. on this site… I have already forwarded my comments on the issue… but just thought that folks like you should know that you would be afforded the sobriquet OF “SOUP DRINKER”,..by those among us who have taken upon themselves the burden of awarding titles… . SHOULD YOU glance back, you would notice a certain contributor.. has bestowed the honour on DR. PERSAUD.. so RAJENDRA YOU MAY JOIN AN EXALTED GROUP… the same gentleman, used the opprtunity to tell us all that he graduated from a university, and DR. PERSAUD would not have made it at that UNIVERSITY… WELL.. one can only say… “rubbish in— rubbish out”…. peace..

]]> By: cunnu - munnu http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-233550 cunnu - munnu Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:28:56 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233550 the only overseas guyanese in the diaspora who wants to go back are the illegals & criminals go back, do what,build what ? some have gone back, got robbed,got killed,cannot face bribery and corruption in everyday life and have left in disgust the only overseas guyanese in the diaspora who wants to go back are the illegals & criminals
go back, do what,build what ?
some have gone back, got robbed,got killed,cannot face bribery and corruption in everyday life and have left in disgust

]]> By: Rajendra_Bisessar http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-233459 Rajendra_Bisessar Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:30:01 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233459 There is no question that there is a strong pull factor, Joining families, and better economic opportunities. having said that there is no way that we can in any time in the future offer economic value that can encourage persons to come back or to prevent them from immigrating. Those over seas says plainly the conditions are bad and if you set it right then we will come back. Sacrifice is not an operative word and it cannot be because if the ideological values we are taught is individualistic, if we are conditioned in the atomised version of the make up of society, if we are conditioned in the dog eat dog mentality and not taught of any collective values or class values or ideological orentation then the only motive woulf be money and me. The government has failed to generate the feeling of support, the feeling of sacrifice. It has failed to generate feelings of patriotism. This is because the spirit of involvihng people, of making people feel wanted is grossly defficient. because many in the leadership feel they know everything they do not tolerate any ideas that may seem contrary to their oponions. They are so much into themselves, into looking after family and girl and boy friends to the exclusion of bright minds. the greatest failure is to generate the feeling of us being Guyanese. Political neophytes were busy being exceptionally confrontational that it did not allow the building of any bridges. It was always we and them. People need to feel wanted. They can sacrifice money and economic gains if one create the situation of utilising their skills adequately and guiding it towards a building process so that one can see the fruits of their sacrifice. But sacrifice have to be demonstrated at the top level also. Unfortunately those criticising the government also shows intolerance to alternative strategies. We need to have a specific discussion on the question of ideology and varying development strategies. When Cheddi and Rodney was around we had healthy debate however today we all seem to be unable to escape neo liberalism. There is no question that there is a strong pull factor, Joining families, and better economic opportunities. having said that there is no way that we can in any time in the future offer economic value that can encourage persons to come back or to prevent them from immigrating. Those over seas says plainly the conditions are bad and if you set it right then we will come back. Sacrifice is not an operative word and it cannot be because if the ideological values we are taught is individualistic, if we are conditioned in the atomised version of the make up of society, if we are conditioned in the dog eat dog mentality and not taught of any collective values or class values or ideological orentation then the only motive woulf be money and me.

The government has failed to generate the feeling of support, the feeling of sacrifice. It has failed to generate feelings of patriotism. This is because the spirit of involvihng people, of making people feel wanted is grossly defficient. because many in the leadership feel they know everything they do not tolerate any ideas that may seem contrary to their oponions. They are so much into themselves, into looking after family and girl and boy friends to the exclusion of bright minds.

the greatest failure is to generate the feeling of us being Guyanese. Political neophytes were busy being exceptionally confrontational that it did not allow the building of any bridges. It was always we and them. People need to feel wanted. They can sacrifice money and economic gains if one create the situation of utilising their skills adequately and guiding it towards a building process so that one can see the fruits of their sacrifice. But sacrifice have to be demonstrated at the top level also.

Unfortunately those criticising the government also shows intolerance to alternative strategies. We need to have a specific discussion on the question of ideology and varying development strategies. When Cheddi and Rodney was around we had healthy debate however today we all seem to be unable to escape neo liberalism.

]]> By: Berbician http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-233402 Berbician Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:26:49 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233402 Feathering my nest Borapork, feathering my nest.Lets see..I can drink one less Banks and buy about 12peterD or about 13EasuP. Get my drift Borapork? Now if you and your buddies think dat is DEALING...who am I to differ. Feathering my nest Borapork, feathering my nest.Lets see..I can drink one less Banks and buy about 12peterD or about 13EasuP. Get my drift Borapork? Now if you and your buddies think dat is DEALING…who am I to differ.

]]> By: yarrow http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-233258 yarrow Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:09:42 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233258 Touchau have ever visit a rum shop friday afternoon in Guyana in the country side......dat is how the PPP does wuk rum shop mentality. Sister Alissa becareful how you writing and rebutting some letters no matter how you teck a pig and clean the animal up.....fancy hair do, sweet smell, and things. The animal will still take back to the mud.....you can change that animal a pig is a pig. That man would never go that deep to do the work you do. Its always nice to read your works....just remember you one of the perls of the our nation. I would love to see you call him to dibate on Guyana Middle Class in a neutral spot in New York City. Give him all the time to prepare. We will cary it live on radio, TV, and hard copy. Touchau have ever visit a rum shop friday afternoon in Guyana in the country side……dat is how the PPP does wuk rum shop mentality.

Sister Alissa becareful how you writing and rebutting some letters no matter how you teck a pig and clean the animal up…..fancy hair do, sweet smell, and things. The animal will still take back to the mud…..you can change that animal a pig is a pig.

That man would never go that deep to do the work you do. Its always nice to read your works….just remember you one of the perls of the our nation.

I would love to see you call him to dibate on Guyana Middle Class in a neutral spot in New York City. Give him all the time to prepare. We will cary it live on radio, TV, and hard copy.

]]> By: Kingshark http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-233140 Kingshark Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:07:44 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233140 All of my children is out of the country since Cheddi died and the crime situation has risen.When i look around my neighbourhood almost 50 percent is out of the country both young and old. All of my children is out of the country since Cheddi died and the crime situation has risen.When i look around my neighbourhood almost 50 percent is out of the country both young and old.

]]> By: Flatty http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-233068 Flatty Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:00:42 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-233068 Fellow Guyanese, confrontation, rhetoric, hate and distortion will do no good. "A little knowledge that is active is worth infinately more than much knowlede that is idle." For those who is set on attacking, here is what i do over here: Ever sice I left home to be domiciled in N. America, I am involved in struggle to better our country in various ways and forms with progressive minded people and org. We can do more here and there are many at home who are yet to get involve. There are numerous problems facing our country, let us work together, in a respectful way to help. "Let us be the change we want to see." This is where I stand. Peace. Fellow Guyanese, confrontation, rhetoric, hate and distortion will do no good. “A little knowledge that is active is worth infinately more than much knowlede that is idle.” For those who is set on attacking, here is what i do over here: Ever sice I left home to be domiciled in N. America, I am involved in struggle to better our country in various ways and forms with progressive minded people and org. We can do more here and there are many at home who are yet to get involve. There are numerous problems facing our country, let us work together, in a respectful way to help. “Let us be the change we want to see.” This is where I stand.
Peace.

]]> By: GUYFLAG http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232824 GUYFLAG Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:58:37 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232824 BERBICIAN, MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAY IS SOUND AND VERIFABLE,... . MADAM TROTZ AND THE GANG ,,.. WRACK THEIR BRAINS TO FIDDLE AROUND WITH SELECTIVE STATISTICS AND SUBJECTIVE AVAILABLE DATA.... . LET ME ADD... SO MANY OPPOSITION EXILES HOLD ON TO THE PHENOMENON OF CONTINUOUS MIGRATION, AS A YARDSTICK OF JUDEGEMENT , FOR GOVT.'S EFFECTIVENESS OR OTHERWISE.... .. SOME EVEN USE THE WORD FAILURE,... .... I WOLDN'T EVEN ELEVATE SUCH COMMENTS TO THE LEVEL OF DEBATE... AND I THINK GUYANESE OF SOUND MIND AND LOVING HEARTS SHOULD'NT EITHER.... ..BUT TO SUMARISE A BIT..... STIMULI TO EMIGRATE GENERALLY RELATE TO TWO FACTORS,... THE PULL" FACTOR,.. AND THE PUSH"FACTOR IN GUYANA'S CASE... the immigration tide was stimulated by THESE "PUSH" FACTORS...between 1970 to 1992, the escape from an OPPRESSIVE AND BANKRUPT DICTATORSHIP ;; FROM 1997 TO THE PRESENT, FLIGHT FROM A DESPERATE OPPOSITION, AT WORK INSTIGATING VIOLENCE AND FEAR ON A HAPLESS GOVT. AND ITS SUPPORTERS AND OTHERS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE;;... ... THE 'PULL' FACTORS WERE AND STILL ARE THE NORMAL ECONOMIC REASONS, AND THE REALITIES THAT MEN OF ALL PERSUASIONS TEN TO BELIEVE "THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHERSIDE" DREAM... ; the other PULL factors.. , during the present GOVT.S watch.. comprises, the natural phenomena, of consolidating the family overseas,... . in most cases,.. especially in USA,;;.. IMMIGRATION PROCESS TAKES NEAR TO NINE YEARS, .. SO WHEN THEY COME THROUGH,.. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS TO TURN DOWN THE OFFER....RELATIVES OVERSEAS WORK OVERTIME TO CONVINCE THOSE BACK HOME THAT LIFE IS ABUNDANT WHERE THEY ARE,.... TRUE IN SOME CASES, FALSE IN OTHERS ..... SO THE EXILES WOULD LOVE TO perpetuate the obvious MYTH... THAT GUYANESE FLEE THEIR COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE ACTION OR OTHERWISE OF THE PRESENT GOVT..... NO ONE SHOULD BE SO NAIVE TO THINK THAT THERE AREN'T EXILES THAT HAVE LEFT DUE TO LOGICAL, AND PERSONAL DISLIKE OF THE PRESENT ADMIN.. .. NOT TO MENTION THE PERCEIVED ETHNIC COMPOSITION OF THE PARTY IN POWER... .. AND OF COURSE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE GREIVIANCE AGAINST GOVT. ACTION OR INACTION.... BUT THESE PALE IN COMPARISON TO THOSE FLEEING FOR OTHER REASONS FORWARDED HERE..... BERBICIAN, MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAY IS SOUND AND VERIFABLE,… . MADAM TROTZ AND THE GANG ,,.. WRACK THEIR BRAINS TO FIDDLE AROUND WITH SELECTIVE STATISTICS AND SUBJECTIVE AVAILABLE DATA…. . LET ME ADD… SO MANY OPPOSITION EXILES HOLD ON TO THE PHENOMENON OF CONTINUOUS MIGRATION, AS A YARDSTICK OF JUDEGEMENT , FOR GOVT.’S EFFECTIVENESS OR OTHERWISE…. .. SOME EVEN USE THE WORD FAILURE,… …. I WOLDN’T EVEN ELEVATE SUCH COMMENTS TO THE LEVEL OF DEBATE… AND I THINK GUYANESE OF SOUND MIND AND LOVING HEARTS SHOULD’NT EITHER…. ..BUT TO SUMARISE A BIT….. STIMULI TO EMIGRATE GENERALLY RELATE TO TWO FACTORS,… THE PULL” FACTOR,.. AND THE PUSH”FACTOR IN GUYANA’S CASE… the immigration tide was stimulated by THESE “PUSH” FACTORS…between 1970 to 1992, the escape from an OPPRESSIVE AND BANKRUPT DICTATORSHIP ;; FROM 1997 TO THE PRESENT, FLIGHT FROM A DESPERATE OPPOSITION, AT WORK INSTIGATING VIOLENCE AND FEAR ON A HAPLESS GOVT. AND ITS SUPPORTERS AND OTHERS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE;;… … THE ‘PULL’ FACTORS WERE AND STILL ARE THE NORMAL ECONOMIC REASONS, AND THE REALITIES THAT MEN OF ALL PERSUASIONS TEN TO BELIEVE “THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHERSIDE” DREAM… ; the other PULL factors.. , during the present GOVT.S watch.. comprises, the natural phenomena, of consolidating the family overseas,… . in most cases,.. especially in USA,;;.. IMMIGRATION PROCESS TAKES NEAR TO NINE YEARS, .. SO WHEN THEY COME THROUGH,.. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS TO TURN DOWN THE OFFER….RELATIVES OVERSEAS WORK OVERTIME TO CONVINCE THOSE BACK HOME THAT LIFE IS ABUNDANT WHERE THEY ARE,…. TRUE IN SOME CASES, FALSE IN OTHERS ….. SO THE EXILES WOULD LOVE TO perpetuate the obvious MYTH… THAT GUYANESE FLEE THEIR COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE ACTION OR OTHERWISE OF THE PRESENT GOVT….. NO ONE SHOULD BE SO NAIVE TO THINK THAT THERE AREN’T EXILES THAT HAVE LEFT DUE TO LOGICAL, AND PERSONAL DISLIKE OF THE PRESENT ADMIN.. .. NOT TO MENTION THE PERCEIVED ETHNIC COMPOSITION OF THE PARTY IN POWER… .. AND OF COURSE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE GREIVIANCE AGAINST GOVT. ACTION OR INACTION…. BUT THESE PALE IN COMPARISON TO THOSE FLEEING FOR OTHER REASONS FORWARDED HERE…..

]]> By: Dandy Andy http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232815 Dandy Andy Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:16:15 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232815 Randy will reply or he will have to explain to the President why he was hired to spin and defend the regime. Anyway, Randy did invite Guyanese in the Diaspora to join him in a conversation on Guyana's developmental issues (or lack thereof). Thank you Alissa for doing your homework for those of us who are either too busy or don't have the interest or level of intellect to appropriate a response. Randy will reply or he will have to explain to the President why he was hired to spin and defend the regime. Anyway, Randy did invite Guyanese in the Diaspora to join him in a conversation on Guyana’s developmental issues (or lack thereof).

Thank you Alissa for doing your homework for those of us who are either too busy or don’t have the interest or level of intellect to appropriate a response.

]]> By: patriot http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-232739 patriot Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232739 I hope this observation puts an end to a debate that is at best a distraction from the fact that Guyana is state on the brink of collapse. Why is there a negative halo associated in the minds of immigration and customs officers throughout the CARICOM region? Why are Guyanese viewed as economic migrants? Dr. Persaud should have reviewed the literature on the subject if he wanted to be objective. However the scientific method holds no water in the PPP propaganda machine. It is unfortunate, sad and down right a travesty for Dr. Persaud to make these assertions. It is nevertheless comic relief from all of the dread going on in the country. I hope this observation puts an end to a debate that is at best a distraction from the fact that Guyana is state on the brink of collapse. Why is there a negative halo associated in the minds of immigration and customs officers throughout the CARICOM region? Why are Guyanese viewed as economic migrants? Dr. Persaud should have reviewed the literature on the subject if he wanted to be objective. However the scientific method holds no water in the PPP propaganda machine. It is unfortunate, sad and down right a travesty for Dr. Persaud to make these assertions. It is nevertheless comic relief from all of the dread going on in the country.

]]> By: Carl http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-232663 Carl Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:27:51 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232663 We have to be careful not to be distracted by Randy Persaud. So while we defend against the foolishness he spews here, we cannot fail to raise the other more relevant issues, which Randy Persaud would prefer that we not raise. I again call upon Randy Persaud to define the Guyana middle class in terms of yearly earnings/income per a family of a defined number of persons, as is done here in the U.S. Until and unless he defines what he means by "middle class", Randy Persaud is guilty of asking us to accept a thesis that he wouldn't accept from any of his students. This is certainly the height of foolishness. We have to be careful not to be distracted by Randy Persaud. So while we defend against the foolishness he spews here, we cannot fail to raise the other more relevant issues, which Randy Persaud would prefer that we not raise.

I again call upon Randy Persaud to define the Guyana middle class in terms of yearly earnings/income per a family of a defined number of persons, as is done here in the U.S.

Until and unless he defines what he means by “middle class”, Randy Persaud is guilty of asking us to accept a thesis that he wouldn’t accept from any of his students. This is certainly the height of foolishness.

]]> By: Truth http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-232657 Truth Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:20:48 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232657 Outward immigration may be a result of many reasons. Unless there is an empirical study that you can point to to say this is/ are the difinitive reasons why people immigrate, you are just guessing. My theory is that many people still immigrate due to the pull factor. Since the 70's families have been immigrating and they are reuniting in more developed nations. I doubt that you can blame mass immigration on the PPP being in power. That is intellectual nonsense. Unless you can establish a correlation that one has a causal effect on the other you are pissing in the wind. This is an extremely poor atttempt to refute Persaud's point. Outward immigration may be a result of many reasons. Unless there is an empirical study that you can point to to say this is/ are the difinitive reasons why people immigrate, you are just guessing. My theory is that many people still immigrate due to the pull factor. Since the 70’s families have been immigrating and they are reuniting in more developed nations. I doubt that you can blame mass immigration on the PPP being in power. That is intellectual nonsense. Unless you can establish a correlation that one has a causal effect on the other you are pissing in the wind.

This is an extremely poor atttempt to refute Persaud’s point.

]]> By: NeNe http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232645 NeNe Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:06:43 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232645 Flatty, there is a saying that goes something like this, "it is better to keep your mounth shut and let them think you are a fool rather than to open it and expel all doubts" You and Randy are done just that!!!! Flatty, there is a saying that goes something like this, “it is better to keep your mounth shut and let them think you are a fool rather than to open it and expel all doubts” You and Randy are done just that!!!!

]]> By: Amen-ra http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232635 Amen-ra Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:57:25 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232635 Flatty you are just another apologist, while you're flying the stars and stripes, you should be back in guyana flying the golden arrowhead then i would believe you. Flatty you are just another apologist, while you’re flying the stars and stripes, you should be back in guyana flying the golden arrowhead then i would believe you.

]]> By: Amen-ra http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-2/#comment-232625 Amen-ra Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:51:52 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232625 Good letter ms. Trotz. Good letter ms. Trotz.

]]> By: BORAPORK: GUYANA NEEDS DELIVERANCE http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232603 BORAPORK: GUYANA NEEDS DELIVERANCE Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:35:16 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232603 Berbician: Since you are so different to us in the diaspora, when will you be making that permanent return trip? Berbician: Since you are so different to us in the diaspora, when will you be making that permanent return trip?

]]> By: BORAPORK: GUYANA NEEDS DELIVERANCE http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232596 BORAPORK: GUYANA NEEDS DELIVERANCE Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:30:12 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232596 Guyanese do not need sugar coated stories about progress and an expanding middle class when the reality is the opposite. Guyanese need truth and veracity. We do not need a hired P.P.P. propagandist dishing out pablum to childish supporters incapable of critical thoughts. Flatty, what would happen to Guyana if the ABC countries passed a law prohibiting the sending of remittances to any country? Guyana will rival Somalia. Guyanese do not need sugar coated stories about progress and an expanding middle class when the reality is the opposite. Guyanese need truth and veracity. We do not need a hired P.P.P. propagandist dishing out pablum to childish supporters incapable of critical thoughts. Flatty, what would happen to Guyana if the ABC countries passed a law prohibiting the sending of remittances to any country? Guyana will rival Somalia.

]]> By: SWAT http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232590 SWAT Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:27:56 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232590 The man's mind is under the control of the government in power. The man’s mind is under the control of the government in power.

]]> By: SWAT http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232586 SWAT Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:26:39 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232586 Flatty - The view is better when you are on your feet than when you're lying flat on the ground. Flatty – The view is better when you are on your feet than when you’re lying flat on the ground.

]]> By: WRodney http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232574 WRodney Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:14:32 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232574 It's a shame when an educated person cannot engage in critical thinking. I wonder where this chap got his credentials from. Soup drinking should be left where ignorance is bliss Mr! Persaud. U would not have survive at the University i went to. It’s a shame when an educated person cannot engage in critical thinking. I wonder where this chap got his credentials from. Soup drinking should be left where ignorance is bliss Mr! Persaud. U would not have survive at the University i went to.

]]> By: Berbician http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232545 Berbician Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:52:53 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232545 Randy is correct,the middleclass in Guyana is growing by leaps and bounds. However, love of country and Patriotism is very low in Guyana. Most Guyanese leaving Guyana, have with them CAPITAL, Cash,Jewellery/EDUCATION(earned cheap or free in Guyana)and other resources, and a big PLUS, They FLY to their destinations(most of them).Contrast this with citizens of other countries leaving their homeland with much much more love of country in their hearts but very light in their pockets,makeshift rafts/boats their transport!! The DOG and BOne/Fox and Grapes Mentality prevalent in Guyana today, means that no matter how welloff WE are,Whining/Bellyaching/Cheating/Stealing/Laziness, will continue,until a GOVT of our (CHOICE) is in POWER!!Well..there was this guy who fought windmills! 75% of Guyana`s goods and services is IMPORTED,Is this possible in a (POOR) country like Guyana?? Randy is correct,the middleclass in Guyana is growing by leaps and bounds. However, love of country and Patriotism is very low in Guyana.
Most Guyanese leaving Guyana, have with them CAPITAL, Cash,Jewellery/EDUCATION(earned cheap or free in Guyana)and other resources, and a big PLUS, They FLY to their destinations(most of them).Contrast this with citizens of other countries leaving their homeland with much much more love of country in their hearts but very light in their pockets,makeshift rafts/boats their transport!!
The DOG and BOne/Fox and Grapes Mentality prevalent in Guyana today, means that no matter how welloff WE are,Whining/Bellyaching/Cheating/Stealing/Laziness, will continue,until a GOVT of our (CHOICE) is in POWER!!Well..there was this guy who fought windmills!
75% of Guyana`s goods and services is IMPORTED,Is this possible in a (POOR) country like Guyana??

]]> By: patriot http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232506 patriot Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:26:49 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232506 I am truly amazed that there is a need to discuss the obvious. It is well known that Guyana's main export is human capital. All forms of this export have emerged to accomplish the goal of getting out of country. Is backtracking a Guyanese invention. What Dr. Trotz failed to mention is the litmus test of migration for any society? What are the numbers like in terms of numbers of people trying to get into Guyana legally or illegally versus those leaving legally or illegally? I think the answer is quite clear. Guyanese want out of Guyana. I am truly amazed that there is a need to discuss the obvious. It is well known that Guyana’s main export is human capital. All forms of this export have emerged to accomplish the goal of getting out of country. Is backtracking a Guyanese invention.

What Dr. Trotz failed to mention is the litmus test of migration for any society? What are the numbers like in terms of numbers of people trying to get into Guyana legally or illegally versus those leaving legally or illegally? I think the answer is quite clear. Guyanese want out of Guyana.

]]> By: Touchau http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232493 Touchau Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:07:39 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232493 By virtue of his closeness to the ruling cabal, the PPP is in Dr. Randy Persaud’s BLIND SPOT so he cannot see the immediate threat to our country’s survival. He sees failure in past administrations and failure in any future administration beyond the PPP. But, Dr. Persaud just turn to your head slightly to your right and tell me what you see. Did I hear, “OMG! Massive corruption, gross incompetence, ineptitude, cronyism, executive lawlessness, lack of democracy, lack of transparency and victimization?” Yes, that’s what I thought. The real danger lies immediately beside you, right in your blind spot. By virtue of his closeness to the ruling cabal, the PPP is in Dr. Randy Persaud’s BLIND SPOT so he cannot see the immediate threat to our country’s survival.
He sees failure in past administrations and failure in any future administration beyond the PPP.
But, Dr. Persaud just turn to your head slightly to your right and tell me what you see. Did I hear, “OMG! Massive corruption, gross incompetence, ineptitude, cronyism, executive lawlessness, lack of democracy, lack of transparency and victimization?”
Yes, that’s what I thought. The real danger lies immediately beside you, right in your blind spot.

]]> By: Diamond Dog http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/letters/10/31/how-does-dr-persaud-reconcile-these-disturbing-migration-figures-with-his-claim-of-the-growing-middle-class/comment-page-1/#comment-232468 Diamond Dog Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:37:19 +0000 http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=62238#comment-232468 Flatty. You said that Guyana is moving forward with limited resources. May I remind you that Human Resource, is also a resource. Why not return to Guyana and help decrease the limited resources. It's nice for some people to talk trash in the comfort of their American abode. Go back and give The Doctor a helping hand. Go and educate those keeping the PPP in power. Maybe then we will have a growing middle class. Flatty. You said that Guyana is moving forward with limited resources. May I remind you that Human Resource, is also a resource. Why not return to Guyana and help decrease the limited resources. It’s nice for some people to talk trash in the comfort of their American abode. Go back and give The Doctor a helping hand. Go and educate those keeping the PPP in power. Maybe then we will have a growing middle class.

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