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Bandit dies in ‘shoot-out’ with police …minutes after robbery

Police yesterday cornered and shot dead a gunman on Brickdam, minutes after he had robbed a city businessman with the aid of an accomplice.

It appears that the two had no clear plan after executing the robbery in John Street. They were apparently contemplating their next move when a police mobile patrol got word of the brazen midday attack and moved in quickly.

Since they were on a bicycle, the two did not get far. Police caught up with them at the corner of Brickdam and Chalmers Place, Stabroek where one of them was shot dead.

Up to press time last night, the dead gunman was unidentified. However, a few persons who saw him at the Georgetown Public Hospital called him `Black boy’. He was shot twice; once to the lower back and once in his right leg, and was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.

Police said the man was shot dead during an armed confrontation after he opened fire on the patrol that was in hot pursuit. However, persons who said they were eyewitnesses rejected this version.

In a press release issued last evening, police said an unlicensed 9 mm Beretta pistol along with three live rounds and a spent shell were recovered. They said the two men had entered the Royal Refrigeration building at John Street, Werk-en-Rust, Georgetown, and held the owner George Ramsarran at gunpoint. The men tied him up with duct tape and took away some $95,000, a wristwatch and a gold band.

Police patrols responded quickly to the report of the robbery and tracked the duo down within minutes, based on the information that they were on a bicycle heading east along Brickdam. According to the police, the ranks of one of the patrols spotted the suspects and on seeing the police approaching, one of the two men pulled out a firearm and discharged a round at the police who returned fire hitting him.

The other suspect, who, eyewitnesses said, surrendered after realizing there was no way out, is in custody. Police said he has been identified by the robbery victim as one of the two men who had robbed him of $94,600 along with a wristwatch. The cash and the watch were recovered.

Persons at the scene bemoaned the shooting yesterday, calling it another example of excessive use of force by the police. Though the gunman was armed, they said, he did not engage the police. When cornered, the persons said, he was shot first in the leg and then in the lower back.

“Why shoot and kill a man when he is already down?” a man who is said to have seen the whole incident asked. This sentiment was echoed by others at the scene.

Blood was visible in the grass where the man had been shot yesterday, and a few feet away sunshades and a handkerchief, which were reportedly dropped by the other suspect, lay in the grass.

Reports are that the men had nowhere to run when they reached Brickdam, because police were approaching from every direction. The coordinated police response had them trapped at the junction of Chalmers Place.

Stabroek News spoke with a person who said he was an eyewitness, who was among several who challenged the police’s version of what happened. He said that just after 1 pm two men were spotted dashing down Chalmers Place with a police vehicle in hot pursuit. One of the men, later identified as the dead man’s accomplice, was steaming ahead and he made a left turn into Brickdam while the now dead man kept running north along Chalmers Place.

According to the eyewitness, the man who was shot had no time to pull a gun and open fire at the police because he was busy running, and trying to figure out where to go.

“He ain’t had a clue what to do and where to go because the police was on him heavy and I saw when he was shot in the leg. That bullet tear away that foot and left him there on the ground hollering,” the eyewitness recounted.

He was then shot again and put into a vehicle along with the other suspect who had surrendered at that time and taken away.

Later, when the police returned to the scene to scour the area for spent shells, a few persons chided one officer in particular who they said fired the fatal shot. The officer ignored the verbal assault and went about his business.

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87 Responses to “Bandit dies in ‘shoot-out’ with police …minutes after robbery”

freetorun
on July 2nd, 2008 5:40 am

if the police was out to kill, they would have killed both men, i believed he shot at
the S.F. and for their safety they return fire, kudos to them.

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GT_BANA
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:40 am:
I guess you didn’t read the article which clearly stated by eyewitness that wasn’t the case. The bandit was shot in the leg however it seems to me the officer was out to kill since he fired another round into the back of the victim.

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shame
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 3:34 pm:
I DON’T REALLY CARE IF THE POLICE WERE OUT TO KILL HOW WOULD U FEEL IF SOMEONE PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND ROBB YOU OF YOUR MONEY, ALL I GOT TO SAY IS KILL THE BASTERS. EVERYTIME I HEAR A BANDIT GET KILL I FEEL SO DAM GOOD TO KNOW 1 LESS BANDIT .

roliescarface
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 4:27 pm:
I think it’s time the police do what they have to do. Guyana will continue to have more and more criminals if the police don’t take the necessary action against these criminals. People walk in fear and don’t go certain places. It’s time Guyana get a real clean up! Take the criminals out one by one and slowly but surely Guyana will once again be a safe place. Sooner would be the better for me.
Roula
on July 2nd, 2008 6:00 am

Police should learn how to catch them instead of killing them. They should also learn to block the road so that the pupils would not witness the killimg.

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Shefishs
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 7:59 am:
Poor Police, damned if they do and damned even more if they don’t. Maybe the bandits should learn to find gainful employment, and become productive members of the community. They could even learn to be business men or police officers who try to uphold and live within the law.

Sorry but you can’t have your cake and eat it too, either you step down hard on crime or you don’t.

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Roula
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 12:11 pm:
You misunderstood what I was trying to say. First of all, I dont think anyone here would support what those thieves are doing, they need to be judge first. I think you would also agree with me that this police killing does not help the situation.

malaika06
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 4:49 pm:
To you my friend “SHEFISHS”

Excerpts from a SN letter written by Eusi Kwayana

“….to explain why the 39 micro projects financed by the EU were vetoed by the Guyana government. Your paper reported that one project was at Ithaca, on the West Bank of the Berbice River, another at Villages 28 to 30 on the West Coast Berbice and another at Blankenburg, West Coast, Demerara.

Please correct my impression if necessary, but so far as I know the government has offered no explanation.
I know these villages and to some extent their populations. The Berbice names of spokespersons and developers are African Guyanese persons. The developer and spokesperson at Blankenburg is an Indian Guyanese woman.

In the absence of an official explanation, I feel free to conclude that the decision to veto was based on racial and political discrimination. In the cases of West Berbice and Blankenburg I can even claim that there was gender discrimination.

I say all of this because if the government had acted on any acceptable ground, it would have told the public. These rulers who have Marxism-Leninism written all over their cloaks do not accept that ‘every cook must learn to govern.’

The President, however, has the power of veto – any bill coming to him from the National Assembly, and of bills only. We seem to be developing, not for the first time, a new unwritten and secret administrative code.
Their refusal to explain their official action is also yet another example of the arrogance and disrespect that is their hallmark.

I strongly disagree with those who claim that there cannot be an elected dictatorship. We know a dictatorship mainly by its behaviour, not by how it achieved office.

I trust that the public will realise that the government could have explained its veto if its veto had been proper or for good reason. I hope too that the government through its back door, the talkative GINA perhaps, will confound all that I have said on this matter, by finally making a transparent statement on its veto, showing the roles of Go Invest and of the silent minister whose life partner works in the main financial oversight agency.

I trust too that the groups concerned will protest directly and in writing to the European representatives in Guyana.

Misleading the nation about tax laws and their application, railing at a senior member of the business community in public for representing his class, denying the year’s subvention to Critch-low Labour College on partisan grounds, failing to prosecute an employer in the interest of a defenceless woman employee, are offences before us for some time. Failure to give reasons for a highhanded veto of 39 micro projects for people willing to produce, and failure to answer a reader’s question whether or not the financial favourites blundered in the way VAT was administered are only some of the recent examples of how ruthless an elected government can be.

I hope soon to seek, for the benefit of the public and for my own benefit, some modern economic instruction from the IMF representative.

Yours faithfully,
Eusi Kwayana

Hello!!!

Is Mr. Prem Misir in office??? Can we get a response from the Government’s Information/PR guru? What? you say no marginalisation?

I’ll accept every word Mr. Kwayana has penned here because of who he is!

And we want to know why single women remain in abusive relationships; single mothers loosing their boy children to rampant crime and gang activities; poor people continue to sink deeper and deeper into poverty?

Go figure

stone80
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 8:29 am:
How do you arrest a man with a gun shooting at you?it may be a cartoon script but it is real.

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raulcedras
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 8:59 am:
It can be done

billp
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 11:32 am:
Why capture them so they can escape from their holding cells during court appearances. Ha!Ha!Ha!

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La vie est bonne!
on July 2nd, 2008 7:25 am

Look at that police picking up evidence with his bare hands. The police in Guyana have no idea about preserving evidence and forensics.
Look at the area, no tape or cordon off. Members of the public trampling throught the crime scene. Jeeze, when will Guyana’s police get real about preserving evidence at crime scenes!!!

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Ricky
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:30 am:
My first thoughts as I looked at the pictures. you mean an Officer reaching to pick up evidence without marking the spot and taking the picture where the piece of evidence is and without gloves.

What case then can the prosecutors make in court when the crime scene has been tampered even with citizens presence?

Shoudn’t there have been investigating Officers dealing with that kind of evidence instead of the police himself.

this kind os behaviour leaves a lot of suspicion. What if the Police goes a place carries out an assault and then picks up all the evidence and plant others? this same thing can be happening with evidence from different places. No wonder the ballistics are always greeted with scepticism. It this that we seem there. This matter should be investigated by the authorities. Maybe SN should send the photos to the responsible Commission for review and action.

this Officer should be relieved from this type of duty. Who knows what’s happening?

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La vie est bonne!
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 7:24 pm:
I concurr with you. It;s really outrageous that these police are clueless about preserving the evidence. Anyone and remove and plant evidence. They are the judge and jury here. Jeeze it’s really horrifying that in this day and age this kind of nonsense if going on. When will the authorities in Guyana wake up and get this force the training and education it needs!
Is Rohee even watching what’s going on???

Ricky
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:32 am:
i agree

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redindian
on July 2nd, 2008 8:28 am

bandits who carry guns should be shot we need to show an example and be hard with these bandits.

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HyBriD
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:40 am:
Ditto! Such small time crooks evolve to become the likes of Blackie, Skinny & Fineman etc.

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La vie est bonne!
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 7:25 pm:
Really. No trail, no presentation of evidence.
What century is this? OH by-the-way, you do enjoy the “innocent before proven guility in American and UK don’t you?
Williebee
on July 2nd, 2008 8:40 am

I am sorry that another life has been lost but these youths have chosen a path to easy money and might is right.
They terrorise their victims with weapons and take their money. Some even incapacitate their victims or leave them dead.
The custodial arm of the judicial system as well as the Courts do not insure they remain out of society for a long time.
The Police are becoming frustrated that their efforts to curb crime is frustrated by the Courts.

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Evadne
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 5:22 pm:
Poverty spawns violence, hopelessness and despair spawn crimes. And when a group of young men/ people have nothing to live for, they will die for anything, it is evident of the front page of the newspaper everyday.

Individuals have to take resposibility for their actions i agree with that, however when there are other aspects to be considered like the lack of jobs to support yourself or family we will have a problem.

The government needs to wake up and realize what’s really going on in Guyana. There will always be crime no doubt about it, but to the degree that it’s happening in a country with such a small population (the last I checked it had not yet reached a million, correct me if i’m wrong) is outrageous. There is enough blame to pass around in Guyana, everyone just needs to claim there part of it and do something to fix it. This will require a whole different thought process for the government.
let me know what you think, It’s quite easy for us who do not have to live with it day in day out and love to comment from the outside, but that’s how I feel.

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malaika06
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 6:13 pm:
If you haven”t already, it would be very instructive to read Eusi Kwayana’s SN letter in today’s edition “Why did the government veto 39 micro projects”.

I’m not for criminal rights, certainly not but once you have a disease, you have to find what’s causing that disease in order to cure it, isn’t that so?

All the police/political administrations have been doing for years is putting plasters on those sores, while the disease festers and becomes chronic.

I don’t think that poverty, one of the causes of crime, can be totally eradicated in this 21st century, but it surely can be REDUCED so that people can live a decent and productive life.

But that means will power and an openness to change to do what’s right and sensible. So many variables, there are so many variables and none of us can do it alone
redindian
on July 2nd, 2008 8:51 am

i cannot believe some of the comments i have been reading .
the police need to be praised on the good work and more police should take the same action then guyana would become a much safer place and the likes of me and others abroad would come home

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Roula
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 12:15 pm:
The police have been killing for almost 10 years, nothing’s changed!

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malaika06
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 3:17 pm:
PRECISELY!!!!!!!!!!

A point that many seem to be missing. Violence begets violence, Kill, Kill, Kill, soon we wouldn’t have need for the criminal courts since all the perps will be dealt with Texas style!!!

La vie est bonne!
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 8:40 pm:
THE POLICE ARE BEHAVING LIKE VIGILANTES!!!

Are we to believe the police version of everything.

The Guyana Police are not behaving responsibly like police should!!!

guy123
In reply to the above comment on July 3rd, 2008 2:58 am:
you know that in the UK we would disagree with your way of thinking,Mate,that is why we enjoy the quality of life we have here.

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guy123
In reply to the above comment on July 3rd, 2008 3:01 am:
My above reply is to Redindian.

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soldier_girl
In reply to the above comment on July 4th, 2008 10:16 am:
You need to believe it, seeing is believing so why not take a trip there and see if you still think that the police there should be prised for anything that they do. Guyana is the way it is because of the actions of the police there. Something for you to think about.

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Alicia
on July 2nd, 2008 9:01 am

If he was armed when he commited the robbery then he was probably also armed when the police cornered him. So I hesitate to criticise the police for this one even though I believe that extra judicial killings have in large part contributed to the state of crime in Guyana today.

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Mauby
on July 2nd, 2008 9:02 am

STABROEK NEWS:

“a police mobile patrol got word of the brazen midday attack and moved in quickly”

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Amarie
on July 2nd, 2008 9:08 am

If they commit a crime, they must be punished. If they shoot at police, then they should expect a fatal response from police.
What I can’t understand is why the officer who fired the shots, the same officer recovering the evidence. Isn’t that a conflict of interest? Shouldn’t these duties be segregated in order to prevent such conflicts?

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Uncle
on July 2nd, 2008 9:42 am

Wow! You folks have been living in America and Canada for far too long! Praises be to the police on this one! These criminals go around robbing people in broad daylight and when the police take action, you criticize them. Thank god this guy is off the streets, who knows how many crimes he has committed, or how many he would have committed in the future. As for his partner, he will be back on the streets in about 9 months or less.

When the police show up late, you criticize. When the police can’t catch the criminals after a robbery, you criticize. When the police take no action, whatsoever, you criticize. Come on now man, give it a bloody rest. The streets of Georgetown are so polluted with criminals, the innocent, hardworking people have to be afraid to wear their jewellery, use their cellphones, or even enter a bank without the fear of these monsters attacking and robbing them. You guys are so busy talking about the criminals, that none of you even mentioned the state of the VICTIM. Was he hit during the robbery? Will he be psychologically injured?

As for the officer picking up the shell. I noticed that too, but come on, what purpose would that serve? It would tell what? That the gunman had kindly taken the bullet out and placed it gently on the ground and thanked the police for a good job done? The police have their hands full with the criminals running around the country. But then again, you guys need to find something to criticize them about, so knock yourself out.

To the police officers who arrived on the scene so promptly: GOOD JOB and I hope you guys keep up the good work.

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Amarie
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:53 am:
Yes the police did a good job in responding to this incident. According to this report, that is indisputable. Also, like I previously stated, they have a right to respond with deadly force when the need arises.

Mr. Ramsarran is lucky to be alive afterall these guys were armed. He has the sympathy of Guyanese people who wish to see our country flourish. Hopefully his psyche will heal in time and his property will be returned.

Unfortunately, this article also highlights other issues of importance. The mentality that goes with ignoring the obvious is the sort of thinking that harbours corruption in Guyana. With regard to my previous comment about segregation of duties to prevent conflicts of interest, I am not criticizing for the sake of criticizing. I am pointing out an area that has serious ramifications. This is the reason why criminals walk out of court on technicalities. Questionable recovery and preservation of evidence for subsequent examination is of utmost importance to ensure the prosecution of alleged criminals. Here you are minimizing the need for proper procedure. It is small wonder that some Guyanese neither trust nor respect the police.

Guyanese need to demand that proper procedures are followed so that alledged criminals could be properly prosecuted.

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Uncle
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 12:46 pm:
Amarie, I understand and absolutely agree with everything you said, but you have to remember that this is Guyana we’re talking about, and not the USA or Canada. The police back home can barely grab hold of one criminal before another pushes his head out and causes more mayhem. The court system is overflowing. The prison is overcrowded. The police are overwhelmed with crimes. Do we really want to dump more work in their laps? I do agree once more, the “work”, should be done properly, but in my personal opinion, that is too much to ask of the Guyana police. Instead of having a group of police carrying out an independent investigation which will drag on for months and take up many hours…let’s use those same police officers to patrol the streets and catch the criminals. I am sick and tired of reading news articles about people getting robbed, beaten, killed, maimed, or whatever the case may be. It’s because of the crime in Guyana that MANY MANY Guyanese are afraid of returning home to visit. And those who do visit, leave with a bad taste in their mouths. All thanks to the criminals. Guyana has lost millions in tourism dollars because of these people, and it will continue to lose millions more until the streets are safe once again. Whenever a foreigner plans a vacation, they first go to Google/Yahoo/MSN and type in the name of their destination. Type in ‘Guyana’ and news articles about killings and robberies fill the page. Add that to the warnings given by foreign countries before their citizens travel abroad.

Debbie
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 6:42 pm:
Seems like you are one of the few who choose to be open and honest about their true feelings in regards to this latest escapade.

Why be irate with the GPF for doing a “Bang UP” job? I agree, If the bandits were to escape they would have become seasoned and empowered by their victory over the honest and hardworking people of Guyana. The Police gave chase and had every right to defend themselves and the public from the actions of these criminals.
The fact that one of them ended up being shot dead is a by product of their chosen life style.

Excellent work GPF!! We must return “Safety” to our citizens, however we can!
I cheer when stolen articles and cash is returned to the traumatized and afflicted people who suffer at the hands of such inhumane actions.

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soldier_girl
In reply to the above comment on July 4th, 2008 10:22 am:
wow you people need to get a clue, reality checks are needed here. If you really feel that way go visit and get a taste of the life then come back and talk.

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Ginger56
on July 2nd, 2008 9:56 am

This might sound harsh…but just look it as having one less criminal to worry about.

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billp
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 1:50 pm:
Right on! Let’s move on to something else now.

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:09 pm:
no one less husband ,father ,son,brother,uncle,cusion,neprew

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billp
In reply to the above comment on July 3rd, 2008 8:30 am:
Yeah right ! One less husband, father, son, uncle,cusion, nephew. If he was truely one of those then he would not have gone and put a gun to a man’s head and robbed him his hard earned money. God knows how many other people he has robbed or killed doing the same. No sympathy from me . Good riddance !!!
Voice-Max
on July 2nd, 2008 10:32 am

doesn’t sound like that robber was very smart…. I think that the police have a general problem: they would get a lot more crimes solved if they were to apprehend (no kill) certain suspects, and get information out of them… I firmly believe that there is someone or some organization that enables many of the high profile gangs (from Blackie to Fine-man and all those escapees in between). Lets get to the bottom of this.

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Ricky
on July 2nd, 2008 10:33 am

I don’t worry myself when a bandit is taken down. He knew that one day it’s either the person he approaches with the gun in his hand. He kills the person or the person got the upper hand and kill the bandit or the Police catch up with him and kills him. The bandit knows that so no crying over spilt milk. One less family daily sorrow.

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:40 pm:
HE was not a family sorrow he was looking to kill any one he listen to and chill and i didn’t realize that it was that it was that he need money that bad could wait til i get paid as to the robby victim i said soory from and husband and family and his chidren but he became avictim he was down he been jail not dead his wife

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popeoplefedup
on July 2nd, 2008 10:52 am

I absolutely endorse using all necessary action in inhibiting criminality.

If the victim were fatally shot, I wonder what our comments would have been?

These lunatics simply do not perpetrate robberies, but often times set out to slay should their mission be resisted by the victims.

It just so happened that these two were trapped that nothing worse transpired.

Had there been an unarmed civilian trying to thwart their plans, I am sure that unlicensed 9mm Beretta would have been used.

I do not support extra judicial killings, but I believe something about the deceased triggered his demise.

After all, why was one apprehended and not the other? What did one do to win leniency?

The force might be corrupt and some officers subverting the course of justice, but they must react in the face of violent criminality.

My earlier post highlighted this, but unfortunately, the moderator, felt offended.

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borntwice
on July 2nd, 2008 12:30 pm

Let us start with being on the side of the victims. It does take a toll on people that have to deal with this ordeal when someone point a loaded gun to your face not knowing what the criminal is thinking. Look at it this way if the criminal have no value for his life then your life is value much less to them.

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craig2
on July 2nd, 2008 12:32 pm

Hot pursuit of an armed robber is extremely dangerous. The robber ignores calls to stop and is known to have a gun. This means the officer can expect to be shot in any instant and if the person so much as looks at him wrong, he has to react.

Assuming the witness is correct, after he was shot and fell, and the officer approached, if he made any move that looked threatening he would have shot again.

Even if the robber had not shot at the police, if you run from police with a gun, you will get shot. In any country. Period. US police will shoot you if you even put your hand in your pocket at the wrong time.

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bvbocan
on July 2nd, 2008 12:35 pm

Nothing was mentioned about the unprofessional way in which the Police Officer in the photograph gathered up the spent shells.

1)The gloveless manner in which he removed the shells, compromises the integrity of finger printing forensics.

2)He also removed the shells before CSI technicians arrived. Perhaps Guyana does not have a CSI forensic team that has to clear the scene before evidence is removed- hence the reason why the officer removed the shells with his bare hands.

3)The bodies were not bagged to prevent further contamination of crucial evidence. Instead they were dumped into an open van, like carcasses of a dead animal.

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billp
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 3:26 pm:
Did you not read the comments of”La vie est bonne and Ricky pertaining to your
concerns.
As for the body beind dumped into an open van like the carcass of a dead animal.Oh! i am sure there is a lot of sympathy from the buisnessman he put his gun to his head and robbed, or Natalie below.
I am just glad an animal like him is out of our society forever!!!

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:27 pm:
kno he’s not animal he is man that hard times came on because when he had it anyone who need it he give it never save it yes i know because i’m the wife that work to jobs no day off to take care of him with is mother and family and he drive cab hard times came he took the wrong path andfor that he’s gone peole like don’t know the half just talking but picture your brother no u his wife

gtagricola
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 3:28 pm:
i think these fake cops need to be trained some of them dont even have a proper high school education and as ruthless as da criminals

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GOPIE
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 5:03 pm:
AT LEAST ITS BETTER THAN BEFORE…THE GOVT. IS TRYING,,IT TOOK 28 YRS TO
WRECK THE COUNTRY..REMEMBER THAT?

La vie est bonne!
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 8:35 pm:
What’s gopie talking about?!?!?!
Better in what way??? More corruption that in any other time!!!!

chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:19 pm:
so right thank u this helps i’ve been up all night reading crying went work got sent home still up at the computer his wife
Natalie
on July 2nd, 2008 12:44 pm

I never worry when a bandit is shot dead! A gun was placed to my head for money that they said was not enough……luckily my gold chain caught his eyes and he took that instead…………..of my life!

I still have nightmares.

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FYRISH
on July 2nd, 2008 1:16 pm

moderator…why is all my comments being deleted?? seems that any congrats to the police force is not tolerated on this comment page.

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Desilusionada
on July 2nd, 2008 1:28 pm

Just look at the civilians on the scene. The two yellow shirts are probably within a meter of the bloodstains and the woman with the umbrella and high heels is evidently not a policewoman. Why not observe from a safe distance? People, people, come on now.

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motherofmine
on July 2nd, 2008 3:03 pm

the government is being run like a salt goods shop so why are we bothered when we see the police acting like key stone cops

long ago the police ran basic training for 6 months
today they train them for 4 weeks then let them out

let thet be the reason we have key stone cops this is the issue to addres here not the shooting its self, i think all cops should be pull off the street and use tropers until they figer this out.

you cant have 4 weeks police on the street and expect to see anything better

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shame
on July 2nd, 2008 3:16 pm

OMG THESE PEOPLE THE ALWAYS COMPLAINING WHEN THE POLICE KILL THE BANDITES THE SAY THE POLICE WRONG WHEN THE BANDIT ESCAPE THE POLICE STILL WRONG,WELL ALL I GOT TO SAY IS GOOD WORK FELLAS IF THE WANT TO ROBB PEOPLE THEN KILL THEM WE DON’T NEED THEM ALIVE.

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shame
on July 2nd, 2008 3:23 pm

I DON’T FEEL SORRY FOR NO BANDITS THAT ROBB NOBODY CAUSE I WAS ROBB 2 AND I WANT TO SAY JOB WELL DONE TO THE POLICE OFFICERS.

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:13 pm:
okay u are one of the angles i was taling about his wife

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truegt
on July 2nd, 2008 3:53 pm

well done to the police.gun toting bandits are dangerous.thank god its not the victim this time.if you play with fire you gonna get burned.no sympathy from me.

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addy
on July 2nd, 2008 4:21 pm

For those of you who are in the US, especially in NY, you know for a fact that if the same thing had occurred there, we would’ve been looking at 2 dead men. The cops would’ve all opened up and everything in the way would’ve been hit. In the heat of battle there should be no second guessing, especially if you are not in the same situation. I think the cops did rather well given the circumstances. You must also realize that as long as a criminal picks up a gun, he has prepared himself to kill. If he’s ready to kill, he should be ready to die as well.

Now with that being said, I somewhat agree with malaika06 about the killing bringing on more killing but that’s not for the cops to decide. The only solution is for the criminals to stop being criminals and leave everyone alone in peace. Absurd, you say? Well, Guyana is certainly not alone where criminal activity is concerned so don’t expect them to have a solution to this. Remember, the police have 2 things to protect, the public AND themselves!

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ankoko
on July 2nd, 2008 4:59 pm

Now the police need training and such on how to properly secure a crime scene among other things. First they have to keep the spectators away. You know how we like to be right up front to see what going on. Gordon off the area and guard it.

Right now I doubt very much that any forensics expert can glean anything from Lindo Creek after so many people have trampled all over the area.

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rwilliams
on July 2nd, 2008 5:37 pm

Guns and violence alone, even when used by the law enforcement officers, with the best intentions, will not solve the crime problem that plague the society.
The deeper and more fundamental issue of poverty and vulnerable members of poor and destitute families, needs to be addressed, in a comprehensive and concerted manner, to prevent these young men from growing into these monsters with guns, as their favorate tool of trade - robbing and numerous instances killing, so randomly. Iuckly, in this instance the victim of their crime was not shot.
Address the root and underlying cause of poverty and much of the crime and insecurity will be significantly reduced.
Instead of spending billions of dollars on political patronage, pet and propaganda projects, the political administration should channel this money on poor and vulnerable members of the community, by skill training and helping them to establish micro and medium businesses, to lift them out of poverty, destitution and desperation.

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freetorun
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 8:41 pm:
do you think these criminals want to work when they can gain more by robbing,

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:14 pm:
he did work driving car but got pay more to use the car and gas it’s hard but he went wrong but he should had went jail not grave his wife
La vie est bonne!
on July 2nd, 2008 7:29 pm

What tourist industry are you referring to? HA HA HA HA.
You are living in an illusion!!!

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blahblah
on July 2nd, 2008 8:10 pm

For this country to run smooth the rule of law must be upheld. We cant have police shooting suspects as judge,jury and executioner. This is what the police always does, and claim that the suspect was shooting at them first. We need these people to go to court and have their day in court.

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 9:07 pm:
thank u for that comment

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freetorun
In reply to the above comment on July 4th, 2008 7:21 am:
you go and arrest a man with a gun shooting at you, reply please.

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GTMYHOME
on July 2nd, 2008 8:25 pm

Sorry I am a Little late on this subject but I have read all the commets and yes if confronted by arm bandit that refuse to sumbit then this is all good but my concern to all here. IF ON FIRING AT THIS BANDIT THE POLICE MISS AND A INNOCENT PASSERBY GET SHOT (MAYBE YOUR MOTHER, FATHER, BOTHER OR SISTER ) don’t go giving the police kudos and not question the manner the excute the job, We don’t want the police to start thinking that shooting all willy nilly
is the way to go. I agree shot if the situation permit but at the same time you are there to PROTECT AND SERVE.

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carifesta_guru
on July 2nd, 2008 8:33 pm

THESE CRIMINALS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVE, FOR HEAVENS SAKE THESE TWO YOUNG MEN I ASSUME, COULD NOT FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH THEIR TIME OTHER THAN GO ROBBING PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE A LIFE IN GUYANA, AND THEN SOME PEOPLE TURN N GET SORRY FOR THEM, WELL IM NOT BECAUSE THEY BOTH KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG AND THEY BOTH MADE WRONG CHOICES DEM SHOULDA NEVA BEEN DEH IN DE FUST PLACE, AND IF THE POLICE DIDN;T CATCH THEM SOMEBODY ELSE WOULDA GET SHOT OR ROBBED AGAIN. SO IM HAPPY THE POLICE ARE DOING THEIR JOB, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

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chennal
on July 2nd, 2008 8:55 pm

This is for all comments sent I’m the man lying on the grass thrown on the truck with feet haning the last picture’s i will see of my husband the that some of u said that is what he gets my name is Chennal Chase married to Eustace Chase as of aug 17th 1985 in N.Y state yes he was sent back i know we all do things and if we can get away with we would be the angels like the ones talk the cops was right ti kill him i know like wittness said he was to busy running looking for a place to run to pull agun and they saw when he got shot in the leg that the shot rip though his foot and he was down on the ground holling and the cop that some of u pasing shot him while he’s down on the grond holling from leg wound was cops in danger where the gun that was pulled drop u see it in the picture’s i don’t i been up all night fromi found out looking at picture’s of my husband how do i feel? for the robby victim i’m saying sorry from myself@husband who became a victm because he should be in jail because he took know life and never pulled out on cops iread it hard times came i wish save i was sending big but he didn’t so this what happen i paid 5,000 u.s to have deportion over turn it was i paid the $70 prossing@the$400 for the visa he been with me i wish change the things i did first istead getting the house new stuff in it i should have paid the $400 and i would have my husband he took the wrong path 7/1/08 but path he takes now with god is the right one love your loving wife chennal bloomfield c.t u.s.a

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Arcadia Terry
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:29 pm:
It seems to me being sent back was not good enough for him ,secretly he was up to no good and you must accept this. To be returned from america to end up robbing the poor people in Guyana ,Why was he deported ?

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chennal
on July 2nd, 2008 9:10 pm

would say that if it was your family from his wife

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billp
In reply to the above comment on July 3rd, 2008 11:04 am:
YOU DID’NT ANSWER ARCADIA QUESTION” WHY WAS HE DEPORTED?

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bvbocan
on July 2nd, 2008 9:28 pm

Advocating the killing of alleged criminals before they are allowed judicial process is a violation of human rights convention. Accordingly, the moderator should immediately edit or remove GOPIE’s post- least the paper comes under scrutiny by Human Rights Watch.

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mabar55
on July 2nd, 2008 9:32 pm

Well If you shoot at the police they will shoot back , one less more to go.Good fast respond from the Police Keep it up .

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chennal
In reply to the above comment on July 2nd, 2008 10:16 pm:
u need to keep reading his wife

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Arcadia Terry
on July 2nd, 2008 10:45 pm

Too many times we see victims get killed in their homes and the bandits get away , now this time is the bandits with the evidence from the robbery on them get caught , The officer that shot him deserves a medal the reason i say this is simple the man that was shot did not drop his weapon while being chased by the police ,that means he was armed and dangerous in public . We cannot as a society accept this no longer he had a right to drop his gun . to ensure the safety of the police and public.

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kabaka
on July 2nd, 2008 11:59 pm

Comrades Remember the KABAKA once said about the death of one of great son of Guyana DR Walter Rodney. ‘ if u live by the sword ………Like wise when criminals attack peaceful and law abiding citizens they must be prepared to feel the heat.Whatever happened to EAT LESS SLEEP LESS WORK HARDER.

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A380100
on July 3rd, 2008 12:22 am

There is an inherent problem in Guyana that young men are turning to crime. It is easy to say that they deserve the punishment, but there are serious social issues when the youth feel that crime is their only option.

I do not condone crime, but when so many of the country’s youth are turning to crime then there is a national issue here as to how to develop these young people into meaningful jobs and professions.

All the police killings do not solve this major problem. A lack of father figures, growing up not knowing anything but crime, older men indoctrinating younger impressionable men, a lack of any financial stability in the home, no supervision at home, all these issues lead to the development of wayward youth.

Some form of relief to the Guyanese household is needed. Relief to the single mother, relief to the frustrated fathers.

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BigMamauk
on July 3rd, 2008 12:48 am

can u say trigger happy police.. this is the type of justice in the land.. shoot to kill… this is just like some nypds.. with guns

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FYRISH
on July 3rd, 2008 9:25 am

it’s amazing how much sympathy the robber gets on here. what about all his victims?? who knows how many more crime he’s committed. for all we know some of his victims might have been killed by him. for the comment about him running and unable to pull a gun, give me a break. it’s not that difficult to pull a gun from ur waist or pocket while running. if this had happened in nyc he would have been shot at least 50 times. the police have a job to protect the citizens of guyana and unfortunately sometimes they have to use deadly force.

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GT
on July 4th, 2008 4:47 am

THATS RIGHT THE POLICE DOING THE JOB.

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stone80
on July 4th, 2008 1:11 pm

The human right activists here at work,supporting a fallen comrad,what about all the victims.Open your eyes to the real world.GUN Violence is taking over your homeland.

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chennal
on July 5th, 2008 12:19 am

someone said i didn’t answer but i’m going to say this we all have done wrong in our life he was deported he did time he was sent home i have been his wife since 8/17/95 my husband went on hard times i didn’t know it got to this but he was sent money evey week but for the last 2 months i could not send like iwould because i was moving in to a house and had to send in$ 400 for his visa so buy him not saving for like ask him hespent on friends and i don’t no how this plan came up but who know it don’t sound like it came from him i work two jobs here in the u.s one $16.31hr the other $14.45 which is part time the other full time his clothes & sneakers that he wears speaks he was good and they came my hard working he took care of me when he was in the u.s so as his wife i pick when he needed me if i know it would got to this pont i would have stay in a.p.t and still have my husband alive waiting to come back and live the way he was surpose too but he is with god now and his sprit with me and his chidren and family so i’ll go next week and lay his body to rest oh for the funny peole he didn’t dress to go do the wrong that he did but have said to the robby victim sorry from me and my husband but to the cop he murder my husband. god knows you took a life not need to be taken all wittness say he neve4r pulled the gun he was to running trying to get away he was shot in his right down on the ground holding his leg with one hand begging not to get shot again and that’s when u took my husband life now do all of u see who the dangers one the man the can see some who was hit down begging not to be shot againand he plays god and jugde and takes my husband life in cold blood in broad daylight ….?i will always love my husband so to mr dexter chase i love u dearly your wife chennal chase

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