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Mom faints as teen sons remanded on carnal knowledge, buggery charges

“…bail refused,” the magistrate said and the mother of two teenagers, who are facing eight charges of carnal knowledge and one of buggery, fainted, hitting her head against the prosecution table as she went down.

The brothers, ages 15 and 17, appeared before the Georgetown Magistrate’s Court yesterday morning on separate charges of carnal knowledge. The 17-year-old was also charged with buggery.

Acting Chief Magistrate Melissa Robertson explained to the boys that the matters against them were indictable and they were not required to plead but she would read the charges to them so they would be aware of why they were present before her.

It is alleged that on December 31, 2007 May 24, and March 8 the older teen had carnal knowledge of three females under the age of fifteen. Further, it is alleged that on May 24 he buggered a female under the age of fifteen.

The 15-year-old was slapped with five counts of carnal knowledge. It is alleged that between January 1 and 31, February 1, 7 and 16, and April 1 he had carnal knowledge of two females under the age of fifteen.

Reports are that the brothers, who respectively attend junior and senior secondary schools, would take the girls to their Georgetown home where the offences were allegedly committed.

Shortly after reading the charges to the boys the magistrate invited them to approach the bench along with their mother. Prolonged discussions followed after which the magistrate announced that the boys would not be granted bail.

The boys’ mother took a few steps away from the bench then fainted, hitting her head against the edge of the table. She had to be helped from the courtroom by the prosecutor and a female lawyer.

The brothers are to remain in custody until next Friday when their matter is due for report.

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69 Responses to “Mom faints as teen sons remanded on carnal knowledge, buggery charges”

amen-ra
on October 11th, 2008 6:10 am

These youth shoul’ve been given bail, why remand them, the jails are already overcrowded. Others get off with more serious crimes and are walking free i guess when you are poor with no connections you go directly to jail.

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Berkeley Van Bowen 173.32.123.175 not found
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 6:08 pm:
Minors should be remanded to a juvinile institution if necessary and not trown into the company of adult detainees. Placing these teenage boys in an adult jail could have profound and irrepairable psycological consequenses.

I propose that the current laws surrounding sexual consent in Guyana be modernized for simplicity and should so read:

Any mentally capable person, male or female over the age of 16 is able to give sexual consent. A mentally sound person over the age of 16 who performs sexual acts on an individual below the age of 16, will be punished under the law for carnal or statutory rape. The legal age for adulthood is 18 years of age.

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alexis 296
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 4:35 pm:
i agree with you amen-ra 100%

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John Smith
on October 11th, 2008 6:27 am

I have a few questions. Was there the mother or any other adults in the house when these boys were on their escapades? Were these girls forcefully taken to the house? Were these acts perpetrated during school hours? Did the girls not scream for help when they were held agains their will? These are questions that need answered.

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M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 11:56 am:
Whether the girls screamed or not or even enjoyed it is besides the point. The law is clear about underaged sex.

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John Smith
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 2:54 pm:
I am simply asking those questions because I can’t understand how can something happening almost frequently and no one knew. I too believe that it is beside the point if the enjoyed it or not. I am saying if they had shouted for help there could have been an early end to this.

desert rose
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 11:27 pm:
The boys are under age too!

bbuckman
In reply to the above comment on October 14th, 2008 1:02 am:
i agree with you.a lot of the people on this forum does not get the big picture.

Cheryl
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:04 pm:
Very good questions john Smith

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Gerry
on October 11th, 2008 7:08 am

It is a pity you waited until your sons were caught before you put on your act.You had to know what they were doing in your home.
Well prepare yourself for long jail time.
You should have trained them the right way or seek help for them.
That is why you are a Parent.

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talkout
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 8:14 am:
gerry i dont agree with u , these are all kids ‘ i think she should have given them bail they are all under 18 and i think the legal adult age in guyana is 18′ what if the parents were at work most parent get home after they kids get out of school’and what took these girls so long to report this. There is a lot more to this

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Desi
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 3:46 pm:
I agree with Gerry. She had better prepare herself for their condition when they come out of jail. Whether at home or not parents, mothers especially, are duty bound to let their children know what is EXPECTED of them, what is right and permitted and what is unacceptable and why. A mother can never allow herself to slack up on the job. As my grandmother would say ‘You have to talk until you blue in de face.’ Somewhere, somehow these two ‘force-ripe mangoes’ thought they would get away with this behavior. Well, now it becomes the magistrate’s job to tell them they cannot. Even if they are set free later, they will get a glimpse of the other side, let them decide if that is what they want.

dwayne
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 12:23 pm:
no one said anything about them being held against their will. if they are all under age then the girls are as guilty as the boys. We all lived in guyana and we know what really goes on. I understand that tey are trying to change things but this law is for grown men stalking these young girls not boys. This is wrong on so many levels.

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Pebbles
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 12:35 am:
Gerry, why are you blaming the mother? Maybe she was clueless of all that was going on….you make your children but you don’t make their minds. Maybe you do not have kids so I have to forgive you.The boys are old enough to know right from wrong. Did you ask yourself in the first place, how did the girls reached there?

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Cheryl
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:16 pm:
Gerry, parents r not always to be blamed, trust me, teenage boys and girls r very smart, when they want to do what they like, they find a way, no one knows for sure what transpired with these four teens, I have know hard working parents who sees that their kids leaves for school, these parents leaves for work, and these kids leaves school and returns back home and does terrible things, I have knowledge of a parent who took their daughter to school, the father arrived every afternoon at the school gate for the daughter, after awhile, the daughter was pregnant, how that occurred, as soon as the parent left in the mornings, the daughter and boy friend left the school through the back door of the school and went to his mother, who was at work, home and did what they did, this was happening constantly, no reports from the school, as the daughter was collecting the mails from the mail box, so don’t jump the gun, these kids r not like years ago.

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sagga
on October 11th, 2008 8:19 am

If these boys forced these young women then they should be tried accordingly, but based upon the article it seems like they are being accused of engaging in sexual activities with an underaged minor,that does not mean forced intercourse,if that is the case it should be bailable.

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sheik
on October 11th, 2008 9:34 am

Some thing does not add up.If what sn is printing is true then the outcome seems to be off.

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Marlon Rajijah
on October 11th, 2008 9:37 am

Dont you all think the mother should have fainted when she heard the charges against her two sons rather waiting till bail was refused them? Some of you would have made very poor magistrates!

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vatvic
on October 11th, 2008 9:40 am

I am not going to blame this mother in any way, but, if teachers were given the respect and support by parents to discipline their children (without parents coming to the school to beat up and threaten the staff) during school hours a lot of idle and wayward children would walk the straight and narrow.

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sundayschool teacher
In reply to the above comment on October 13th, 2008 5:49 pm:
i agree withu the parent need to keep a good communication withe the teacher from time to time and what time did they have to be misbehaving out of school i some how i still bleame the both parents for what happen , especially the girls sidetheir mother should have know the some things was a mist of the behaver patter at home and their school too

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Arnold
on October 11th, 2008 10:20 am

This was not consensual or they wouldn’t of been reported, they have a long history, must be castigated with the full force of the law. Or more rapist in sight.

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talkout
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 4:51 pm:
arnold did you grow up in guyana then you would know that the only how a girl would say that she is rape at this age most time is when some adult caugth them or a friend say thier going to tell thier parents and they scared to get a ass whipping so they tell thier parents they got rape’ if the doctor should check them most of them it would not be the first time they had sex i remember i went to guyana and my nephew was 14 years then a woman brought her daugther who was13 years old and told that she was pregnant for my nephew and i was are you sure she yes so i then said ok i take you guys to the doctor because i want to make sure that she , you know what she said no i did already all i want is money to do an abortion and if that is done i would not go to the police , so i said to her we don,t believe in abortion so i think you would have to go to the police ,you know she never when and her daugther was never pregnant ,so if i had given her that money i would have gotten rip off. sometimes you have to be very wise people try ti rip u off in any way

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Cheryl
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 7:22 pm:
This happens all over the world, females sometimes accuses menof these awful things, some women r really raped, so a check has to be made, and yes!, some girls cries rape, when they r caught, either by a neighbor, friends of the parents or caught in the acts with boys, this girlfriend boyfriend liking business, so when these things r found out, proper investigations should be caried out before charges are implemented.

alexis 296
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:21 pm:
cheryl you are so right.
Pablo_Picasso
on October 11th, 2008 11:02 am

Just looking at the chronology of events, I find it very strange why the brothers are now being brought up on these charges now vise in Dec/Jan when the first set of incidents happen. I agree this is a bailable offense.I also agree this was consensual sex not forced sex. The trial will reveal more on this story.

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M. Xiu Quan-Balgobind-Hackett
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 11:58 am:
It is only consensual when the female is over 16.

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bbuckman
In reply to the above comment on October 14th, 2008 1:03 am:
i think you will spend a lot of time teching the basics.it will never get to the next level.
Ulric
on October 11th, 2008 11:27 am

Well bloggers, I know of friends who would still be in jail for having consensual sex when they were 14,15,16, and 17. and many in power would be answering to the department of corrections for their next meal. In most civilized countries minors accused of a crime (murder excluded) are released in the custody of their parents. But then on the other hand Guyana may not be one of these civilized countries, or the Magistrate may be dancing to the tune that begins PPP, and ends PPP with drums tassa and horns blaring. I say no more.

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gtbeat
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 5:49 pm:
If this happened to a female relative of yours , would you like the perpetrators to be bailed?.

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Ulric
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 11:57 am:
The females were not forced. They were willing participants according to the article. If you are a male and have lived in Guyana as a teenager you would undoubtedly know it was a challenge to tell your friends that you slept with, so and so. No question about that. Now tell me, would you want to be jailed for having consensual sex? Yes, I am smart enough and caring enough to have pity on the young man to have him released in the custody of his parents until trial, even if the agrieved was my sister. I say no more.

Jason
In reply to the above comment on October 13th, 2008 5:08 am:
I think that we are getting a bit carried away. All parties to these acts are children and children will do what they will regardless of background or upbringing. SN does not make mention of any force being used against these girls so I assume there wasn’t. These girls knew exactly what they were doing and did so willingly. These things happen every day and it is only when a responsible adult or a dismayed parent finds out that we hear about it. It is natural for a teenage boy to have these urges but young girls have to learn to value themselves a lot more. If the girl was my sister I would want the boys released too.

Gtmama
In reply to the above comment on October 13th, 2008 10:07 am:
Ulric, no part of the article says “they were willing participants”. Whilst initially it may seem harsh for the judge to deny them bail, you still have to take into consideration many factors. The article never said they were poor, so they can become flight risks, maybe the girls indicated they were being threatened. Sure these things happen in Guyana, like everywhere else, but you still have to look at every situation individually. And I am sure if it was your sister, the boys in question would have been dead by now.
We need to teach the youth of today some boundaries and respect.
Richard Lewis
on October 11th, 2008 11:37 am

I think that the court got it right this time.

As I understand it (and I may be wrong), the law in Guyana is that no one has the right to have any sexual relationships with anybody who is fifteen years or younger, regardless of whether the young person agrees to sexual relationship or not.

What I am not sure about is the status of the fifteen year old defendant. Is there a special clause dealing with sexual offenders fifteen years of age and under?

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John Smith
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 3:03 pm:
Just a question, what the law says about 15 year old boy? This whole thing is confusing. If a 15 year old girl asks a boy of the same age to have sex with her what the law does then?

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bess
on October 11th, 2008 11:41 am

NO BAIL!!!!!!! I LOVE THIS MAGISTRATE.. LET THE TWO YOUTHS BE SHOWN AS AN EXAMPLE. NO BAIL. SOME OF THESE YOUNG MEN, EVEN THOUGH THEY COME FROM A MOTHER, THEY SEEMS TO HAVE TO FEELINGS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. PUT THEM BEHIND BARS, FOR A FEW MORNINGS LIKE 2 MONTHS OR SO, AND STILL LET THEM PAY A FINE TOO. TOO LITTLE PARENTIAL GUIDANCE IS GIVEN AT HOME, WE NEED MORE STRICT PARENTS. BUT I DO AGREE, WITH THE PENALITY. PUT THEM IN JAIL.

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np
In reply to the above comment on October 18th, 2008 4:07 pm:
YOU THINK THE GIRLS WERE CRYING OR SCREAMING WHEN THESE ACTS WERE GOING ON/ //ASK YOURSELF WHAT WERE THEY DOING AT THE BOYS HOUSE….THEY WERE NOT FORCEFULLY TAKEN THERE…AND AS FOR PARENTAL CONTROL DON’T YOU THINK THE MOTHER OF THE GIRLS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AWARE OF HER DAUGHTER’S AGENDA???….THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE MOTHERS FIND OUT THAT THEIR DAUGHTERS HAVING SEX AT AN EARLY AGE AND CAN’T HANDLE IT…THAT IS POOR PARENTING ON THEIR PART….. SO BEFORE U START JUDGEMENT ON PEOPLE KNOW THE FACTS……THEY PROBLEM HERE IS TEENAGERS HAVING SEX AND THE GIRLS PARENTS CANT ACCEPT THAT THEIR DAUGHTERS ARE HAVING SEX. SO DONT PUT THEM IN JAIL.

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Ankoko
on October 11th, 2008 11:54 am

Vatvic, Arnold, Picasso - y’all thinking the same thing I am based on the information given here. There are so many questions that come to mind like: Why has all this time(almost a year) elapsed from the first incident to when it is reported/being acted on? Can there be any reliable medical evidence to prove that the first incident occurred when it did and by whom? Where is the boys’ father? Where do these girls live in relation to the boys’ home? Do they go to the same schools? What about these girls’ parents/guardians? Didn’t they notice anything about these girls? Did they come home late from school with strange or no excuses? Were these dates of the alleged acts all school days?
See how confusing it gets? I am not inclined to believe that nothing happened - no way - but this reeks of much much more than is put out to us! If the evidence is there to support a guilty verdict - I say they should be punished within the framework of the law taking into consideration their age and any/other mitigating factors.
Further we shall see/hear.

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Free One
on October 11th, 2008 12:21 pm

i personal believe that the moral and values has lost in some of our families today,these boys in the first place should have respect their home,(don’t know if that was taught to them) likewise these young girls leave home to go school and should find themselves home after school,little boys want to play man and the little girls what to be woman before time,but that does not give these boys right to do what they did,might as well they stop now or we will have some problems in the future.

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Jason
In reply to the above comment on October 13th, 2008 5:34 am:
I agree that the boys were wrong but boys will be boys and young girls need to have moral values reinstated. In most cases a boy (age 17 and under) will only go as far as a girl will let him.

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Fineman cousin
on October 11th, 2008 1:12 pm

well is a good thing i not living in guyana i too would a get jail for the same thing unless the statute of limitation could of saved me i still think the magistrate got it wrong by not granting them bail but who can tell with these political appointees and whose daughters these girls are should be considered as well these lads are minors as well so that should have figured in her decision one can recall a certain big business man was accused of the same thing was he remanded to prison eh was he

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Arnold
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 2:01 pm:
Self-acclaimed!! luckly you’re not in G.T.

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Fineman cousin
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 5:25 pm:
well we both know why we do’nt want to live in guyana
bourdaman
on October 11th, 2008 2:33 pm

SN, did you get the ages of the young men wrong? I read in another newspaper that they were 19 and 17 respectively. Anyway, if they were both under the age of 18, then they should have be released into the custody of their parent with instructions to report at regular intervals to the nearest police station pending their next court appearance. Something is really wrong with the law and the judicial system in Guyana. Where is the bar association on matters like these. Yes, rape is an indictable offence but the charges seem late in coming and it looks like it’s their word against the young ladies.

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tiger
on October 11th, 2008 4:54 pm

i think this incident( and i suspect it to be) was an ongoing affair by both parties hence the lenghly period of time they were having fun, the girls partaked in this fully why did’nt they say something in the first case.i think the magistrate should have granted bail in the circumstances.

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Fulano de Tal
on October 11th, 2008 5:03 pm

Knowing the mentality of the average “GT” gal, they probably were enticed by a ‘fancy house” or the young men’s dressing or some other worthless material possession & willingly went but refused to participate in their activities. Although the young men were/are wrong for having carnal knowledge without consent I don’t think they should be remanded with seasoned criminals. They should be “whipped” so they can’t sit for a while & sent home.

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tangerine
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 7:47 pm:
Remember all, it takes 2 to Tango….something was in IT for both of parties..I am glad though ,it is in the open, so others would learn.

Tangerine

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berry
on October 11th, 2008 7:36 pm

what can i say about this. these two boys are just children. what were these young girls doing out of school and at the home of these two boys. the mom needed to set some rules in her home where she tell her kids no visiting of the opposite sex in her home while she is out. i am sorry that she hit her head when she fell. what shame they cost her. the young ladies involved in the incident should be dealth with too they are not that innocent in the matter either. may justice prevail

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ZERO - TOLERANCE
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:12 am:
This is a breakdown of morals in society, Parents are getting the damn if you do damn if you don’t treatment, I’m not sure where the parents were in this particular incident but a lot of parents are working their butts off to support their kids especially in this technology age where kids wants all the new gizmos and gadgets, but some kids on the other hand are living double lives that the parent has no clue of and thats how these kinds of lawlessness happen, in some islamic countries these boys would have been castrated or worse.

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batooba
on October 11th, 2008 8:11 pm

It’s sad to see these 2 young men already being tried and condemn by these law abiding bloggers without hearing the facts of this case. This is guyana where the average 13 or 14 year old girl knows where babies come from and what to do to get them. They are not fickleminded, they know how to cook ,wash go on errands etc.The only thing is because of their age the law protects them from being abused. These fresh girls know exactly what they were doing.(commoness) as we would call it in the olden days.These boys are very much kids like the girls that why the courts should have offered them bail with counselling. Now if it was a 17 year old girl comitting statuory rape with two 14 or 15 year old boys would you bloggers recommend that she not be given bail…come on. These are just young kids with tingling hormones indulging in adults stuff. These kids and their parents needs councelling. I am quite certain there is more to this story than what is being portrayed in the news and mind you i am not one who condones rape or any immoral acts.

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Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on October 11th, 2008 8:24 pm:
I’m with you 101%

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Caesar
on October 11th, 2008 8:42 pm

The punishment fits the crime.The offence of buggery, a long hush hush activity, seems to be on the increase in Guyana from 1964. It was often committed by older persons,but as it appears,teens are getting a liking for this sort of crime.

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alexis 296
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:49 pm:
if was your son you would be saying something esle.

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Caesar
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 9:38 pm:
No I wouldn’t.. Spare the rod and spoil the child. Which do you prefer?Spoil the child?In full possession of your style,I guess so.
radhica
on October 11th, 2008 10:45 pm

I think that both parents of these kinds should be blame for this mistake. Especially the girls parents. As a parent of teenager daughter you should be more involved with them and whom they are with. This could have been avoided

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Birdman
on October 12th, 2008 9:26 am

They should have been given bail; but having said that , dont go blaming the girls., We have to abide by laws. They were wrong to do this., Some of us got away with this 60 years ago, but this is 2008.My mother got married at 15 and got me at 16.That was 70 years ago. Things change, When I was born there was no electric, or water, and we have to move forward. God forbid if my grandchild come and tell me she wants to get married at 15. I’ll have a heart attack.I’m sorry but like I said we have to go forward.Parents have to take responsibility for their teenagers actions.We cant only depend on school to teach our children. As parents we have to take a hand in this.

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gtintrouble
on October 12th, 2008 12:05 pm

In law, there is a presumption of innocence. It appears that in Guyana, that presumption no longer applies. There are certain offences for which the legislature has removed “theright to bail” and these include murder, treason, certain categories of drug and firearm offences.

Unlawful carnal knowledge and buggery are bailable offences. In other jurisdictions, courts are usually not inclined to remand someone charged with a bailable offence unless the prosecution can provide the court with good reason why the liberty of an unconvicted man should be taken away.

The purpose of bail is to guarantee the accused person’s attendance at court to face their trial.

In considering an application for bail, the court has to weigh the following factors:-

1. the nature and seriousness of the offence
2. the character of the accused and his ties to the community (whether he is a national or a visitor to the country)
3. his record before any other courts if previously granted bail (did he attend his court dates)
4. the strength of the evidence.

The court must be concerned with the risk of the accused interfering with witnesses or committing further offences whilst on bail.

Bearing all of that in mind, to remand young persons to prison is almost guaranteed to expose them to a lifetime of crime. Some sociologists refer to prisons as “universities of crime”.

One must also remember the justice system in Guyana is one of delays, unless you’re Carol Ann Lynch and can have a speedy trial.

Bail is not punishment and too often in Guyana, courts impose these jail terms on unconvicted persons.

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guy123
on October 12th, 2008 12:23 pm

Ow,I feel sorry for this poor mother,all she can see is that her babies are in jail,give her a break,she is in shock,she is not to blame for what they did,if they did what was alleged,what were these girls doing at this house,when they should be in school anyway,girls and boys together in a house,should not happen,I hope this is a warning to other girls,when you are sent to school,do not go by any boys’ house!

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Buxton Spice
on October 12th, 2008 6:26 pm

I really enjoy talking to my mom now that I am grown. Back in the day, she was the disciplinarian. My dad was there, of course, but she ran things. She was very vigilant and kept her fingers on the pulse of the family. I recently reminded her of this story that I am about to share and thanked her for saving my virginity until I attained adulthood/age of responsibility.

One day, this seventeen year old came to a yard next to our to cut grass. I was thirteen. We would usually chat while he did his work. This day, he told me that he liked me and after a while suggested that we do ‘commoness’? I said no at first but eventually I said yes. He told me to go to the back of our yard and he would follow later. I changed my mind by the time he came so he had to talk me into it all over again.

Unaware to both of us, my mom was onto the action. She called me and asked what were we talking about, why did I go into the backyard? I lied and said that he was asking me about schoolwork. She asked,” then why were you writing in the sand with your toes?” (My mom was reading body language - good for her!) She told me to get in the house and told him to find somewhere else to cut his grass in the future.

Parents have to be vigilant. Of course, most homes now have both parents working. Even the grandmothers work. There may be no one at home to monitor what time the kids arrive from school and in what condition.

When these kids were absent from school, didn’t the school authorities call? When kids used to ’skulk’ from school, some adult - or even their buddies- would inform the parents.

Kids, enjoy your childhood! Leave adult behaviors until you attain the legal and mental age. You have only so many years to be a kid….have someone take care of you and be legally and morally responsible for your welfare. Once you become an adult, it is all on you.

I hope that these four (4) kids and their parents learn from this. Peace……

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Cheryl
In reply to the above comment on October 12th, 2008 8:28 pm:
Thanks so much Buxton Spice for this story, sounds very true, my mom told us about these things also, very good mom u have, God bless her.

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Cheryl
on October 12th, 2008 7:57 pm

I was in Guyana couple years ago on vacation, I remembered two males were arrested for rape, which never occurred, what really happened was, these two teenaged girls were at the Sheriff sporting, they knew both men, after jirating and grinding on the dance floors, all four of them left for the home of one of the men,and also asked for a doggy bag of chowmein and fried chicken,they stayed at this man’s home, continued the drinking and having big people making out, they never refused to enter the taxi nor the man’s home, next day, they wanted money, the males refused, these young teens arrived home and said their reason for staying out was, these men took them home and raped them, the police was called in, these men were charged for rape, the neighbors next door to these men saw these women there and never called the police and explained that these teens were not forced into this man’s home, I don’t know what happened to this case, as I had to return home for work. The police in Guyana needs to investigate reports of rape, the assumed victim taken to the doctor, (examinations would show forceable entry,) men have to understand, if even a woman gives permission, and after says no, it’s simple no, men should not be involved with underage females, some women needs to divert from the habit of leading men on, you don’t say yes and then cry rape if u don’t get the cash, that’s giving ur body up for money, which has a name to it, if a woman goes to a night club, make sure u r not underage, if ur not, pay ur way into the club, buy ur own drinks and food, and have enough money for a taxi home, (go dutch,) parents needs to see that their teens remains at home doing school work, not behaving as adults. If these young men r found guilty, jail their butts, if the young women r found lieing, jail them, these teens has to be taught a lesson, if u rape a woman, u go to jail, if u lie on a man that u were rape, u go to jail.

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warlard 187
on October 13th, 2008 8:25 am

Some of these comments make no sense To me, They r all kids . Y did this take so long to come to light ,and yes I would ask de same question.were they taken by force y did they not scream?they went over and over. Its like this sombody parents get mad and could not deal with de fact. These kids should a given bail . Thank u

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warlard 187
on October 13th, 2008 8:33 am

If it was adult males and under age females I wouda been singing different tune .cause I said over and over I don’t like rapist and childmolsters. But these are all kids and kids make mistake.to all who blame the boys mother, Where were the parents of the young girls?

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warlard 187
on October 13th, 2008 8:42 am

My sympathy goes out to the boys mom . People don’t faint wen they expect somthing, she faint cause it was unbelivable she clearly did not expect dat . S/ n y don’t u post my comments cause I see u post some very bias ones.

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warlard 187
on October 13th, 2008 9:01 am

Man I had to read this thing again these boys shoulda granted bail

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warlard 187
on October 13th, 2008 9:13 am

Arnol I don’t think u were ever a teenager or u r not a guyanese . These boys had somthing that attract these young girls. That was clearly not rape. that was kids doing somthing they should not be doing .and sombody parents get vex wen dea find out. S/N you gonna bump this rite? Thanks anyway.

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Morenike
on October 13th, 2008 3:10 pm

old enough to do the crime , well do the time

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Lindener in Brooklyn
on October 14th, 2008 3:49 am

Just finished reading most of the comments and is apalled at how most contributors are interpreting it.

The fact is that the charges were made against the boys are indictable so that is the reason bail was not granted. Second, at the trial, witnesses etc will be called to testify.

I last visited Guyana in 2006 after a 17 year absence and was like a stranger in a strange land. It is not the Guyana of my youth (left at age 16). The shocking part is that many of these young women are urged on my their parents to commit such atrocities. I find it very hard to believe that many Guyanese forget the saying popular even in my day, … let your bull out to pasture…? I rest my case.

The breakdown of the society is evident, so now its just chickens coming home to roost so to speak. May the chips fall where they may.

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Carl Browne
on October 15th, 2008 8:39 am

These youth should not be sent to jail but taken into care and given councelling. Sending them to jail would only defeat the purpose, remember they are still young and needs to be dealt with from a juvenile, platform.

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JUAN GABRIEL
on October 15th, 2008 4:03 pm

I sincerely hope that this swift course of action will also be yaken for those PARIAH type bus drivers and conductors who specialise in DEFILING young girls of school age.

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