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‘Fineman’, ‘Skinny’ killed in police operation

Following months of frenetic and bloody pursuit, police yesterday said they shot and killed Rondell `Fineman’ Rawlins and escaped prisoner and multiple murder accused, Jermaine `Skinny’ Charles in an almost seven-hour-long operation starting at Timehri.

Another man identified as Seon Grant of Timehri Squatting area was also killed in the process. He was identified by relatives. Up to late yesterday the police had not completed any fingerprint matching for the slain men, but acting police commissioner Henry Greene noted that the men were positively identified by two prison officers.

Rondell Rawlins (left), Jermaine Charles (right)

At a press conference called hours after the dramatic events, Greene told the media at Police headquarters, Timehri that acting upon information received at about 5:45 yesterday morning two teams from the Joint Services Operation Group and the Guyana Defence Force Special Force along with members of the special forces proceeded to an area in Timehri about 500 metres east of the GDF ammunition dump when they came under fire from shooters in an identifiable house.

According to Greene in that first confrontation, GDF Corporal Cush was shot in his right hand. He said ranks returned fire having seen three men running from the house and when they descended upon the scene they found the body of a man who was rushed to the Georgetown Public Hospital (GPH) where he was pronounced dead on arrival. The man was identified as Grant.

Ranks then continued their search for the other men.

The two men ended up in Kuru Kururu at a place villagers call Kakabura and at about 12:45 pm, police said the team came under fire from a small unfinished concrete structure. There was an exchange of gunfire and two men, later identified as Rawlins and Charles were killed.

Greene said the men were taken to the mortuary where they were pronounced dead on arrival. A search of the structure revealed two AK 47 rifles and 215 7.62 by 39 rounds contained in seven magazines. One of the weapons have since been confirmed as one of those which went missing from army base Camp Ayanganna back in 2006.

According to a police source, who saw the bodies there was no serious injury to the faces of the two men but Charles’ arm had serious injuries.

Rawlins had a visible nick on one side of the face, the source said. Further, this newspaper was told that Rawlins sustained a gunshot wound to the back of the head. Stabroek News understands that the dead man had a goatee.

Not over

Meanwhile Greene made it clear that he was cognisant of the fact that there were still many gang members out there and said that the police’s success in capturing what he called the “point man” of the gang did not mean that the search was over.

To this end he urged that the other gang members turn themselves in and face the full force of the law and reiterated that “we are by no means giving up the search.” Flanked by army Chief of Staff, Commodore Gary Best, Greene told reporters that the police have been able to identify Rawlins as the gang leader over the years and noted that the more prominent leaders of the gang have already been killed from October last year to date.

Malcom Allen called Coolie Boy, Aubrey Glasgow called Dread, Noel James called Baby, Orlando Andrews called Bullet, Troy St. John called John Eye, Otis Fifee, Cecil Ramcharran and Robin are among gang members killed.

Greene also said there are about 25 gang members and persons who have supported them in one way or another and are currently in the Georgetown Prisons.
He noted that while some of the men were known to the police and may have been convicted on offences in the past, they have not been heard from over time and so were not prominent.
In the list of still-wanted men Greene listed several names including Sunny, Richard Daniels called “Chucky”, a man known as “Not Nice”, Leon Cort called “Capone”, a man known as White Boy, Ratty, James Gibson and one known only as Kenny.

However with this latest killing, especially of wanted man Rawlins, Greene said he feels that the gang has been shaken and likened the police’s success in slaying the man who has been able to evade them for some time, as the proverbial “breaking of the camel’s back”.
“We feel we have broken the camel’s back where this gang is concerned,” he asserted.

Recounting the intelligence received which he labelled as “an integrated approach,” Commodore Best said that the army responded based on the information it received. He said when that information pointed to the fact that the men were staying somewhere in Timehri, he said he figured that they would want to assemble not far from the army base.

Asked about his feeling in light of the revelation that the men’s temporary abode was mere metres away from the army’s ammo dump, Best said he was concerned but noted that he had no information so far as to whether the men had any intention of attacking the base. However he noted that it was not something that he would put past them, since the concern of criminals of that nature were to always keep their ammunition stores going.

Since June when the police reportedly had their last positive sighting of Rawlins, following information they received which pointed to Christmas Falls, the man had been able to evade capture, despite countless joint services operations, searches and road blocks in several areas in and out of the city.

Questioned in that regard, Best responded, “let me start at the end, there is no more Fineman and Skinny… indeed they managed to get past the joint services.”

“In any event these were hard men, hard fighters. In the end the joint services won, we won out and it is not over as the commissioner said because there are other criminal elements at large. The joint services continue to conduct its operation and work towards keeping the country safe … I don’t see a let up of this operation for the Joint Services,” Best asserted.

Asked about his concern that many of the weapons being recovered in the hand of criminals have been traced to the army, Best noted that there is a concern but said the ammunition found with the men was old.

He further stated that recent finds on many criminals have produced less and less ammunition but cautioned that he was not suggesting that more ammunition was still not out there and in the hands of the wrong people.

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179 Responses to “‘Fineman’, ‘Skinny’ killed in police operation”

true guyanese
on August 29th, 2008 5:49 am

good job //////////// keep hunting down the others,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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mala
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:22 am:
i agree, they killed a lot of innocent people. The relatives of these convicts are bawling now that they are dead……well at least now they know how the relatives of the innocent men, women and CHILDREN that was killed felt.

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critik
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 10:11 am:
Good job indeed by the police but, is a good job done by the gov’t and other stakeholders to ensure a “Fat Man”, a “Magga Man” or another “Fine” man doesn’t erupt in the next three years?
Our solution to crime is not ONLY the gunning down of the bandits but the provision of the necessary supporting mechanism to ensure that they are never born or get a chance to grow.

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colt45
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:23 pm:
Yup. And we need to hear the response of certain political parties who jump at the throat at the JS whenever they shoot someone. Why are they silent?
Greiving perhaps.

geeteerebel
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 3:42 pm:
Well now that fineman dead, Roger Khan in Jail. Guyana should be free from drugs and murder???
A fish may rot from the head down but political changes occur from the bottom up. (hence grass-roots)…
Good luck in waiting for the politicians to change the country…….

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Josie
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:03 pm:
I am very proud of the joint services of Guyana, it is about time.

Gary, we proud of you.

The Coast Guard reps of the United States (Guyana Maritime Command) thank you for the excellent job that you are doing. We love you.

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Victor Singh
on August 29th, 2008 6:00 am

Congratulations for a job well done. The dedication, hard work and efforts of the ruling Government and Joint Services must truly be recognized and appreciated by the Guyanese people home and abroad.
The butchery of innocent people especially children must not be condoned in any society.
I am sure that the termination of these cowards will bring some closure to the victims and their relatives whose lives are distraught.

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otimistic pessimist
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:44 am:
Victor, wat you say??? The dedication what and what of the ruling government and what? Where you from man

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Wiffy
on August 29th, 2008 6:08 am

Good work!

“Greene said the men were taken to the mortuary where they were pronounced dead on arrival.”

Everything about this sentence seems strange! Shouldn’t the pronouncement of death be made before taking the deceased to the mortuary? Anyway ………

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realist
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 7:58 am:
This was a mistake by the journalist, i saw the press conference on TV last night, they were pronounced dead at the hospitak, then taken to the mortuary!

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ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:43 pm:
DONT YOU DARE!!!!!!

You don’t defend the lying statements of these culprits.

WIFFY have all right to question what she reads.

Jones P. Madeira
In reply to the above comment on August 30th, 2008 9:14 am:
Oh…do not worry about that. Journalists have written sentences before like: The dead man was seen walking to the scene of the crime…etc etc etc.

colt45
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:17 am:
Aw!! stop parsing poor journalism.

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Alexandria
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 10:42 am:
totally agree with u, pronounced dead before mortuary…….are we positive this is the right person???? How many guyanese are allowed to see his identity?????

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realist
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:28 pm:
Before u pass verdict , note this:not because stabroeknews does not have the pictures in their news, means, it does not exist. check kaieteurnews.com front page, also stabroeknews has two articles about the thing with different stories. remember, use ur sense, or if this hurts ur head, lie down, until it pass.

Lenny Singh
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:08 am:
Guyana is relieved but the job is not yet over.

There must be an `organisation’ which was coordinating and supporting the deadly activities of these criminals.

What about the gold, diamonds and cash which were stolen from Bartica and elsewhere?

The Security forces need to get hold of those others who have been providing the logistics to Fine Man and Skinny.

What about the other gang members named in the newspaper articles. Names such as “Chucky”, “Not Nice” and others?

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wiah
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:20 pm:
I AGREE.SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT THAT SENTENCE..THEY PROBABLY DON’T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS AS YET…SPECULATION?:)) LOL

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unimpressed
In reply to the above comment on August 30th, 2008 3:08 am:
I am not Impressed, if they wanted to punish him for his crimes keeping him alive would have been the best thing to do. He is now gone but the families that suffered that very tumultuous ordeal is still going through the agony of bearing witness to such atrocity. DEATH IS NOT PUNISHMENT. In the news report they said that a gun battle took place and “fireman” was shot so HOW DID THE BACK OF HIS HEAD GET BLOWN OFF PEOPLE? THIS MEANS THAT HIS BACK WAS TURNED WHEN HE WAS SHOT. ONLY A COWARD WOULD SHOOT SOMEONE FROM BEHIND.
CountryMan
on August 29th, 2008 6:09 am

I question the identity of the man reported in Kaieteur as Fineman. I could not help but noticing that the scar on his forehead which is present in all other images that I’ve seen of him is missing. Fineman had plastic surgery to remove scar from his forehead?

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BigK
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 7:55 am:
TYPICAL!

Y’all just can’t accept good news?

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jay
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 8:57 am:
Ya sure right i agree wid you

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:14 am:
Have you ever been a student before?

If you have, you would know that teachers appreciate those that ask questions.

He is not typical, then again you are right, a good student is typical of his merits.

Look, good news, is when the people get proper and decent answers on the many murders and conspiracies that the government and police force pin on others.

That is not justice, why not try him, to find out the truth of this matter, why not put him through court, no they want him dead and SHUT UP!!

This is how they killed Douglas, Fraser, Blair, and many others, no one will ever know the truth.

People are frustrated, let the governments be truthful.

colt45
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:18 am:
Ha!! You seem to be one of those who said fineman is a myth

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ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:44 pm:
who colt45?

CURIOUS GEORGE
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:28 am:
Since you seem to know every detail of fineman, maybe you should be the one to identify him. Just a suggestion.

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CURIOUS GEORGE
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 3:10 pm:
My reply is meant for “countryman”

allison
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 3:09 pm:
lol, look country man, u 2 funny

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ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:50 pm:
countryman i am in agreement with you….

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Satish
on August 29th, 2008 6:17 am

Cdr Gary Best said he has no information so far as to whether the men had any intention of attacking the army base at Timhri but he agrees this was a likely option.
That the JS ambushed them before they could get up to attacking strength is clearly a fortuitous blessing.

An all out sustained attack on the camp at the height of Carifesta would have been beyond most of our imagination but we can use Lusignan and Bartica to focus our minds!
Hoping that the camp personnel would be busy elsewhere, Fineman and his people could have attacked; perhaps with an eye to over-running the camp entirely.
These strategies are not the plans of your average psychopath for if this was indeed the plan, then it is not inconceivable that a military coup in Guyana could have been attempted from the camp. This needs to be investigated.

Travis Kyte and Annette who say they know Fineman, claim that he was not assertive enough and was even a “frighten man”.
I have always felt that Fineman has superiors and this will also have to be investigated and the MR BIG named and shamed

As it is these circumstances have resulted in Guyanese celebrating a fairly good Carifesta and simultaneously celebrating the death of the slaughterer of Lusignan and Bartica. It does not get much better than this.
May the victims who escaped death at Lusignan and Bartica and all families and friends who for the rest of their lives will daily grieve for the atrocities committed get some solace from these developments.

FACEBOY has focused on some very important issues which we should not lose sight of even during these good tidings, namely:
1 Anonmyity for the Joint Service personnel involved in the operation.
Naming Corporal Cush was unfortunate.
2 Reward money to be shared proportionately with those JS persons involved.
3 Be aware there may be those who may ‘cry foul on behalf of these criminals’

The last word must go to Cdr Gary Best who says, although the camel’s back is broken, there can be no let up to apprehend the rest of the mob before another ‘Fineman’ turns up. We wish him all good luck in trying to make Guyana the safe place it can be.

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john brown
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:26 am:
Satish nobody likes to condone criminality and should not but the ruling party in government is also criminal. when the events surrounding the lusignan and bartica massacres, the government played politics and was casting blame to make it look political. to do things like that is in itself criminal because they intended to mislead the guyanese people for political gains. in this day and age i just cant imagine that people in guyana can believe some of the crap i read about. when you want to know the where abouts about other gang members you generally capture the leader and get information. in this case something aint right. Are you telling me with all the bullets flying around only one hit fineman. to booth look where this running man in a supposedly bushy area was hit , in the back of his head. Another thing they commissoner talk about slaying the men , isn’t that contradictory ? who takes shot men to the mortuary to have them pronounced dead ? i guess satish might do things like that . the guyana police force is notorious for concocting these strange tales and the strange things is that people believe it.

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gtbeat
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:04 pm:
Sorry we could not bring him in alive for you to queation him.

Dtech
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:53 pm:
Mr john brown……….we all know that there is plenty criminal activities going on in the joint services and even in the Government……and im from ‘Guyana’ i should know this…..Bringing in these criminal alive would only be a puppet show…..cause someone would release them back again.

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:52 pm:
i agree with you

the government and police are out for blood

the president is nothing but a dictator

all they do is destroy evidences

leave the public in suspense

and some of us silly guyanese swallow it—not me

colt45
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:34 am:
It is not a mystery who is behind and giving support to these ruthless murderers.
Kudos to the JS, bring ‘em in dead or alive.

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supererro
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 2:37 pm:
I am all ears, colt45. Let’s hear who or what is behind the murders.

ONVERWAGT1
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:19 pm:
It seems that u know of a mystery,so why do’nt u solve it ?they were just barbaric elements ,thanks to the G,S.for ridding our dear land of them,maybe the others who are still at large will realize that time is also running out on them,hence they re-consider what’s best .

Natasha Boston
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:00 pm:
:O The Joint Services get to claim the reward money?! Isn’t capturing criminals part of their job?

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buxton_man
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:44 pm:
yeah, the JS cannot collect the reward money. they did what they were paid to do. the reward money is for people who assist the JS in capturing these men; since the report says that the JS acted on information recieved. anyway, they did a damn good job.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK JOINT SERVICES!!!!

Ginger56
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:51 pm:
Thank you very much, “Natasha Boston” my thoughts exactly. Why the JS be given the money, when it’s their responsibility for capturing criminals. I would have been satisfy if a civilian/s was given the reward for capturing “fineman” and was brought in.

time
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:57 pm:
the money the money !!!!! y that is all what we think about just sat thanks for a job wll done and let it b who get credited or rewarded for the effort shouldn’t be an issue
y we guyanese cant just accept and bless.
we wanted fineman gon from our society and we also questioned the armed force might to do so now the did and we sayin we should bring him in to question… who get the money who get this and that ….. lord forbid u cant ever please Guyanese nowander we are still so backward…

Twinkle Toe
In reply to the above comment on August 30th, 2008 11:16 am:
THIS REWARD WAS EARNED BY THE JS. It was no fun going into the jungles for months to capture these morons. Kudos to the Joint Services.

Apart from seeking out the others criminals, it is time that ROBBERS be liqidated from the face of the earth. Catch those with motor cycles who are armed and go robbing and killing innocent people. Catch these people and and give them a funeral each.

Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:54 pm:
That is so true Satish. He was nothing more than a coward whilst growing up. We grew up just three houses apart. On the other hand, skinny was always in trouble ,maybe from the time he was born. Shawn grant aka Troy Grant was also another troublesome one in Agricola from an early age. Fineman was nothing more than a punk.

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firefly
on August 29th, 2008 6:42 am

Congrats to the men and women in uniform who played a direct or indirect part in this operation.

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bluegrass
on August 29th, 2008 6:46 am

job well done, please find the others and end this ruthless behavior by these criminals, then go after the street criminals with guns, let them know that our society will not tolerate this any longer.
JOB WELL DONE, AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

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vijay deo
on August 29th, 2008 6:55 am

25% of the population this morning is sad the other 70% happy.

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Trix
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 8:02 am:
Vijay, what about the remaining 5% ……. undecided?

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mackydog
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:22 am:
TRIX,
The other 5% undecided is still awaiting “escape” from the prison or the hospital.
the 20% is the Main Opposition

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:28 am:
Good question.

otimistic pessimist
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:58 am:
Vijay, you get the Einstein award today for both your computation wizardry and your deep and profound insight into the psyche of Guyanese folk living in Guyana

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vijay deo
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:12 pm:
I am mathematically challenged..the other 5% is for the ppl like you(foreign sympathizers).

time
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 2:02 pm:
HA HA HA HA U SURE RIGHT !!!!!!!!
WELL I PRAY THAT THE 25% THAT R SAD WAKE UP AND SMELL D COCO BEANS WHAT THESE MEN DID WAS WRONG, IT IS CRIMINAL AND IT IS AGAINST THE WRITTEN WORD…

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Josie
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:11 pm:
Coco I agree with you
ha ha ha
amen-ra
on August 29th, 2008 7:16 am

kudos to the joint services on an operation well done.

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mackydog
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 7:54 am:
I thought you were one of the people who say that Fineman Rawlins did not exist? How come now you’re congratulating the JS for killing a ghost? Shame on you.

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Ricardo
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 10:40 am:
Yes Mackydog rub it in that was not the only one saying so. All along i kept saying that Fineman was not a figment of imagination but real as can be. nonetheless he is now dead and congratulations to the JS for a job well done. now I can allude to the fact that the COP said they would continue to be “relentless in their mission capture or eliminate these notorious criminals”.
Well Done JS at least the Helicopter is working, deduced from press conference with COS Gary Best
He, however, expressed gratitude to the Government for giving the JSOG an increased capability including better weapons, transportation, helicopter surveillance resources which played an important role in the locating and killing of the bandits,

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:04 am:
Good statement.

amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 5:40 pm:
macky first of all i never said fineman didnt exist, u got me wrong with some other person.
John Smith
on August 29th, 2008 8:24 am

The joint services must be congratulated on such feat.

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mackydog
on August 29th, 2008 8:47 am

Wow, F I N A L L Y !!!
FINEMAN RAWLINS AND SKINNY DEAD.
One of the headlines I’m so glad to see on Stabroek News front page.
Great news indeed and a damn good job well done (so far) by the Joint Services.
We have waited very patiently for this outcome and so now we can breath a big sigh of relief.
It might’ve been a good thing if Fineman and Skinny were taken alive though so we can know WHO his bosses really are by HIS admittance and have them publicised, shamed and prosecuted. We all know who I’m refering to here.
The job is not done as yet, we still have to get the rest of the gang. This should act as a deterrent to upcoming criminals as to what their faith is when pursuing crime.

So now what does the naysayers have to say? All those bloggers who screamed over the months that Fineman is a ghost, he is a “smoke screen”, Commish Green is no good, the JS has no clue who Fineman was, the government is not competent , etc, etc. and all the other things they said?
Well, now you negative people see that Fineman DID exist, and the government IS competent in apprehending criminals and controling crime. It just takes time sometimes.

Also now, Arokium can breathe a bigger sigh of relief Fineman is dead. He can continue his charade blaming the Joint Services for the slaughter of his miners at Lindo Creek because Fineman is no longer around to admit to the slaughter and what led up to it. (Stabroek News’ Moderator alone knows what my theory is on this topic, he axed it everytime I said it, would not be surprised if this one is too). Some of us would never know now for sure who did it. I’m not fooled.

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bluegrass
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:12 pm:
all the critics who says that he is a MYTH, listen he is real and DEAD.
the others will also be killed

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bgsbny
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 2:14 pm:
Sn ,, is bcoming all too biased and liberal at the same time with the “axe” as if they have an agenda ! ,, many of mine die at birth ,, and for this i’m tolerant ,, since this is the most,, rather,, it is,, the only forum thru which i am able to expose — to the discretion of SN,, how de pnc and it’s misguided clique r intruments of destabilisation ,, it should be of interest to SN ,, that i’m an independent thinker ,, i have no agenda ,, besides that which mirrors the very concept of the creation of SN,, that being democracy !…..

in a fledgeling democracy as is ours ,, the outstanding need of the hour is greater information and,, greater tolerance !… sincere efforts at enlightenment
and,, education by both the press and the people,, are more important ,, than the govt !……

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jay
on August 29th, 2008 8:59 am

Job well done, they need to also continue to look for the other, so that they can help bring the situation to Guyana to some sort of normal state. Good job!!

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Michael Marks
on August 29th, 2008 9:00 am

Does it matter what they were planning to do, where they were staying or what information are given by the police or the media Guyana is a safer place with the killings of those two.

They might not always get it right and the Police and Army may still be over run with corruption as is the country as a whole but well done on getting rid of those people.

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stone
on August 29th, 2008 9:02 am

these were good guys,they never did anything wrong,just ask their family.

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blackmamba
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 8:00 pm:
let’s ask your family….?who’s family were those that were in Bartica..?….and so many on the Eastcoast…..? sure not yours..what ever happen to humanity..?..justice must be served at all cost .

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StoneP
In reply to the above comment on September 4th, 2008 10:18 am:
I believe there was some sarcasm in Stone’s comments!!!

bishnu R
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 8:30 pm:
they use to go to church every sunday.
you got the drift.

people please go home on zoom air line for a month .

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colt45
on August 29th, 2008 9:12 am

Where are all the folks here who said Fineman is a myth. Now who has the last laugh.

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Omkar
on August 29th, 2008 9:20 am

Progress is an offshoot of peace and the slaying of those who wantonly harm others can only result in a more tranquil atmosphere.

Grasp this opportunity divine souls of our beloved Guyana and synchronise your thoughts, words and deeds to foster Truth, Right Action, Peace, Love and Non-Violence and reap the harvest goodness for all.

Congrats to those who are entrusted to ensure the safety of the populace for meeting their mandate.

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bgsbny
on August 29th, 2008 9:21 am

…… last year when i saw fine man,, while i was standing by the fried chicken place by big market his “goatee” was braided,, to look like the pharaoh,, it was about 3 to 4 inches long ,, we made eye contact ,, he was wearing a knitted tope,, a white t-shirt what looked like a khaki pants,, and he had a knitted bag the same colour of his tope hanging from his left shoulder ,, his left hand was in the bag ! i did not look at his shoe since as he appeared like out of air as we made eye contact and the look in his eyes,, — with his left hand in the bag — was like,, if you only say my name ,, ure dead ! he was much fairer then,,, than he was when i first saw him in 2001 !…….

the crimes of the now infamous things called “fineman” and “skinny” were their worst enemies that followed them like their shadows,, until they fell into the pit they dug !……. the mention of “ratty ” he was in prison with rawlins in 2001,, ratty i think was deported from NY,,

more of the same,,” intelligence gathering ” with stealth and surgical precision ,, of implementation,, the rest of those wanted by the law ,, will make the same mistakes like the 2 now dead !…..

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supererro
In reply to the above comment on August 30th, 2008 12:58 am:
SO, SHOULD THEY FREE OLIVER HINCKSON NOW?

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fatty
on August 29th, 2008 9:24 am

one thing i would like to know, y when they kill these criminals,they give the family such a hard time to see and get their bodies for burial,i mean they r already dead they cant do anything anymore, regardless to what life they live,they all have families and friends that care for them, so allow the family to do their thing, we all make children but not their minds,,,com on now give them a break…..

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Dtech
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:10 pm:
These Criminal had no respect for the living or the dead…….and even these same criminal so calll familiy probabaly, some time or the other, protected these criminal………..so why should they be granted the decency of a proper burial…..these criminal should be thrown in a hole and leave to rot……and not be remembered..

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MIKE SMITH
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:28 pm:
I TOTAL AGREE
RS
on August 29th, 2008 9:26 am

Excellent job by the Joint Service good work. I can breathe a sign of relief and I hope the Force hunt down the remaining of those.

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ink09
on August 29th, 2008 9:31 am

KN has a beautiful picture on their front page. As I said before, we need to see more pictures of the corpses. And, the govt. needs to keep the bodies and dispose of them.

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ink09
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 10:22 am:
Here is a link to some pictures thanks to the folks at

http://www.livinguyana.blogspot.com/

and
http://guyana360.blogspot.com/2008/08/warning-meet-last-of-fineman-and-his.html

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Ricardo
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 5:22 pm:
Hey ink09
Thanks for the link it has some real interesting stuff
Peace!!

Natasha Boston
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:05 pm:
Keep the bodies for what, may I ask?

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Natasha Boston
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:07 pm:
Why should they keep the bodies?

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ink09
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:27 pm:
See, this is what happens when the nice folks at SN cut the main parts out of my posts and some posters just can’t, or refuse to, read…”AND DISPOSE OF THEM”.
gtgyal
on August 29th, 2008 9:45 am

Good job and congrats to the security services!!!

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Myfun1
on August 29th, 2008 9:52 am

Finally something positive to cheer about, if this is really Fineman congratulations are in order. Postive ID of the deceased is necessary before accelades are bestowed upon the men of the Joint Services for a Job well done.

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kper
on August 29th, 2008 10:01 am

Good job !!!! Keep up the pressure . y can’t the ranks try to get some of these ’so call bad boyz’ alive? We need to catch them alive to get info out of them and also to lear about the mind of a criminal.So we can get some experiance in the future

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Irreverend
on August 29th, 2008 10:03 am

The Joint Services members who took part in the operation MUST be rewarded the $50,000,000. As they said, “We do we job.” REWARD THEM!

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Ricardo
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 5:04 pm:
Waiting to see and hear that one

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Tanni
on August 29th, 2008 10:04 am

as a young person i am happy that the force has finally got fineman and some of his gang it was about time they did something right now they have one less criminal to worry about so i guess gyuanese people doesn’t have to worry about another massacre now, RIGHT?

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Aneka Edwards
on August 29th, 2008 10:04 am

It’s refreshing to see that the Police is making progress in curbing the seemingly out of control crime. As my mother always used to say it takes a partnership between the community and Police to solve solve crimes and it seems the partnership is reaping positive results. As a Guyanese living overseas and being bombarded by negative comments about my country I’m pleased with what I’m reading.

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TIGER
on August 29th, 2008 10:09 am

job well done BY THE JOINT SERVICES AND OTHERS WHO took part in this opperation which i think was long over due nevertheless is over. i now called for the removal of all guns from the streets of guyana which are in the hands of criminals.

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lion
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:50 pm:
I am very Happy the JS kill them.

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ah806
on August 29th, 2008 10:22 am

I was thinking along the same lines. Here is a compilation of the haters comments I put together. I am sorry I don’t have the time to post more. I guess these regular haters in mourning too.

Posted by yamese69 on June 11
I am so happy there is no trace of fineman, because thoes who are hunting him down are just like him.

Posted by BOEING777 on June 11
There was never fineman in the Christmas falls saga.
It’s all an illusion by this regime! Cunningly stirring up the diversion from the Roger Khan singing out in NY court.
This regime is shameless, never ending dictatorial tactics!!!

Posted by ms guyana on June 9th
why is this beginning to sound like al quaeda and osama bin laden all over again
every operation puts a further dent into the organisation. a few more killings and they’re on their last throes. 8 years later we’ve got them on the run
et cetera et cetera

Posted by motherofmine on June 9th
we will believe you found Fineman when we see him captured this could be a
smokescreen to deflect attention from the Roger Khan issue, ha ha ha

Posted by La Vie est bonne! on June 9th
Really, how they know it’s Fineman? They found no-one!!!
The words of emptiness keep rolling off the GPF lips.

Posted by bvbocan on June 9th
The only thing crumbling is the illusion of a fineman

Posted by BOEING77 on June 9th
HA HA HA, thanks for the humour!
It’s truly a funny situation with this regime.

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bgsbny
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 2:29 pm:
……. mascots of the misguided !…….

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mackydog
on August 29th, 2008 10:29 am

So ironic that I was thinking that for the 1st time in this entire week there has been no reports of serious crime in Guyana except for the assault on the Canadian ship captain. I was actually waiting for today to complete the week to make that comment in my blog…and what happened…big news, Fineman dead.

I think I can still say there has been no more serious crimes committed this week in Guyana. Somebody must be doing something right for a change.

Thank God, Allah, Buddha, Ram and whoelse for this weeks peace.

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Irreverend
on August 29th, 2008 10:39 am

Hope the gov’t put aside another $50 M for the next set of criminals that still in cradles and breeding and will give us nightmares in the next 5- 10 years when they become yound men.

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amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 5:54 pm:
irreverend be careful of what you say that next generation may be one of your own. what are you trying to say. If the govt put away 50million it should be spent on education and job creations so that the next generation can have somthing to work with when the are born or when they reach of age to adolcent.

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justice4all
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 6:24 pm:
Let us see if they will go after that other group of murdering criminals who call themselves vigilantes. The problem with Guyana, its political leadership and acolyte clan, is that they are afficianados of moral relativism. This produces a backwardness in analysis that allows them to comfortably give the Nelson eye to one kind of criminality while frothing at the mouth and bleating about another.

There is more theiving going on under the cover of politics than has ever been experienced in Guyana throughout its existence as a nation. There are people who just cannot resist robbing the tax payers while hypocritically pointing their fingers at others and talking about crime. Crime!!! Some of these people invented stealing.

amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 6:01 pm:
ireverend be careful of what you are saying, what if one of those next generation turns out to be one of your family? Instead ask the govt to provide jobs, education, and opportunities so that the next generation may not turn out to be criminals.

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ALL_GT
on August 29th, 2008 10:41 am

Great job, but I wanted them caught alive to talk about how they acquired their weapons and to identify all those who helped them over the years, then have them executed by firing squad.

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teri
on August 29th, 2008 10:52 am

Fineman would not have been a myth if their families were included in his bunch of victims. The Joint services has the last laugh,
Once again, don’t criticize and ridicule, advise and say Thank you for a job well done.

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Josie
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 9:14 pm:
Well said teri

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brian (CANADA)
on August 29th, 2008 11:08 am

Guyanese need to have freedom and live a happy life than to worry about these criminals. GOOD JOB MR GREENE.

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ker
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:04 pm:
What’s up with posting this man’s IP address?

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Bread
on August 29th, 2008 11:08 am

Congrats to the Joint Services, job well done. Everyday, i keep praying that these cruel, crazy and criminal elements will be found. Now i am feeling good knowing that they are no longer around, and that this beautiful country of my birth could restore it’s good name around the world. I agree with Mr. Greene and Mr. Best, there are still members out there that should be brought to justice or hunted and killed. Restore democracy to GUYANA by getting rid of those losers.

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otimistic pessimist
on August 29th, 2008 11:09 am

Jack… look boy tek yuh jacket!

Having just given Jack his jacket, I must also join the clamor in recognizing the JS has gotten something right… finally! Took them long enough!

However, in neutralizing the threat that Fineman and his band of cohorts represented, the JS now finds themselves in a position where blame for new unsolved crimes can no longer be placed on Fineman. I am thinking here that a new hunt is now on; the search for a replacement scapegoat.

With one felled swoop, the multiplicity of previously open cases can now be conveniently closed with the demise of this fugitive terror Icon. One hopes that after the dust settles and the congratulatory and obligatory back patting comes to an end, the GPF will continue to work on their Forensic and intelligence gathering capability for which there is such urgent need in Guyana today.

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otimistic pessimist
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:17 am:
One ting I does always got fuh wonder, how come the JS does cyant capture no high profile criminal alive huh? You know how much info dey could a get from he if they did ketch e alive?

Odda countries got some a dem most notorious bandits and serial killers behind bars and Guyana Finest and the JS alwasy seem to go into shoot-em-up mode and kill everybody.

But then again the JS was always good at brute force and have more than their share of ignorance… finesse and intellegence are the short fall areas… ok, yea, I now remember.

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MIKE SMITH
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:50 pm:
YO TAKE A CHILL PILL MAYBE THE JS SHOULD DRAG YOU IN FOR SOME QUESTIONING. SINCE YOU THINK YOU KNOW SO MUCH.
david pete
on August 29th, 2008 11:11 am

some of u will b surprised 2 know some of the ppl. involved with fine man ex boss y do u think e was not brought in 4 questioning do u think 4 fear e would escape o no
Who ordred the execution of the late minister of agriculture.

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Mcbee
on August 29th, 2008 11:21 am

Congradulations to the joint service and I hope you continue the relentless pursuit to rid the country of these criminals.

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bristar23
on August 29th, 2008 11:23 am

MANY MANY PEOPLE HERE ON THIS SITE BEFORE AND U KNOW WHO U ARE WERE INSISTING FINEMANE WAS A MYTH AS OTHERS IN GUYANA WERE SAYING THE SAME SO WE COULD STOP LOOKING WHERE ARE U NOW.
ALSO ONE BULLET TO THE BACK OF HIS HEAD THIS MAN WAS EXCUTED AND IT WASN’T BY THE POLICE OR ARMY OR MAYBE I OF THEM IN THE ARMY FOLLOWING ORDER NOT FROM HIS GENERAL. DEAD MAN DON’T TALK. I’M SURE THE GOV. WANTED TO CATCH HIM ALIVE . THIS IS JUST A SHORT PAUSE IN CRIME THE EXCUTIONER WILL START A NEW GANG

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Ankoko
on August 29th, 2008 11:29 am

I am going to be the devil’s advocate here and mackydog (I do agree with you on some issues), satish - you can beat up on me for this. First off I am happy that svere inroads have been made towards the dismantling and elimination of these criminal enterprises. There remain MUCH more to be done! This ’success’ should not be seen as the cureall.
I have always felt that these ‘criminal gangs’ had their masters - persons with the wherewital to aid abet and protect them - and I’ve said before on this blog that this outcome would be this script. That these men would be killed and in death continue to protect their ‘bosses’. It would have been very gratifying to have been able to capture alive and interrogate some of the senior members of the ‘gangs’ which would surely yeild info that would assist the authorities to demolish and prevent a resurgence of these ‘gangs’
OK - Let the criticisms begin!!!!!!!

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ink09
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 11:51 am:
Ankoko, I agree with what you said, but sometimes being greedy results in us losing everything. It would have been much, much better if he had been caught alive and brought in for questioning, but we have to consider the track record of the police force. What would have stopped him from escaping again like he did before? Or, what would have stopped his accomplices in the force from aiding other gang members in planning an assault on the police station or even the prison where he (fineman) would have been kept? Sometimes you got to take what you can get.

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bluegrass
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:23 pm:
none, so far but can agree i would have love for a few to be captured alive so the truth can be reveled, WHO IS BEHIND THEM< WHO FINANCE THEM

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ah806
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:19 pm:
COP, said they have 25 before the courts. Thats more than a few alive.

MIKE SMITH
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:56 pm:
WHO CARES WHO HELP THEM THESE CRIMINALS HAVE A MIND OF THERE OWN, KILL EM ALL.

ah806
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:16 pm:
Ankoko, They were armed with AK47s and had over 200 rounds left. Any suggestions on how they could have been captured alive?

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Angel
on August 29th, 2008 11:35 am

Congrats! A job well done to those who were there directly & in-directly. Keep up the good work GPF & GDF.

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guyanagirl
on August 29th, 2008 11:47 am

hats off to the join service job well done gun man u can kill us but u can kill all of us ,you can run but u cant hide for long

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lambada
on August 29th, 2008 11:55 am

my skin groan, kudos to the JS, EVERYONE WAS READING THE DAILY NEWS FOR THIS HEADLINE; FINE MAN AND SKINNY DEAD.

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Fineman cousin
on August 29th, 2008 11:55 am

well well you are all so brave after the fact,what fineman was alleged to have done as for as i know and that goes for everyone he was not found guilty of anything,living in north america should have made all of you respecters of due process,once again I would say shame on the police,army and government as we all know dead men tell no tales just like blackie where are the millions they stole did their relatives get if so why was it not confiscated if not who and why no investigation as to what became of it,i still wonder how can a government and its supporters be happy to have a section of the society get so anti social that the only alternative is to turn to crime and violent crime as that, i guess people who have no pride in themselves and love for their country would fall in that bracket

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Annie
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:30 pm:
U cant be serious??? When last were you in GT? The place turned into a virtual ghost town. Ppl are/ were (? ) living in fear.
Fineman and Skinny would have gone down fighting. THINK!
I’m not a fan of Jagdeo but i liked his comment..
” I prefer to face the Human Rights ppl than to see the faces of mothers of those shot by the AK47s of wanted men”
That said, I agree that more should be done to give youth in depressed areas an alternative to crime.

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Dtech
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:01 pm:
What? “Alternative to Crime’?…….’Crime is crime’, ‘Worng is Wrong’ no matter what the situation may be………….i agree things hard in guyana, but…….. there are some many persons right here in guyana facing very hard times……but they dont chose crime… they chose to work….even for how little it may be………..every one has there own free willl………………..

Fineman cousin
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 1:15 pm:
Yes i was in guyana twice i was passing the two brothers gas station when it was attacked a relative of mine was driving me in his car and had to stay at my hotel in georgetown for fear of passing back, thats why a thorough job should have been done so that all and sundry could know the truth and stop the speculation,too many loose ends or were their deaths supposed to put an end to all this, remember where it all started and it has not stopped even with all the killings of the allege perpetrators i say and all intelligent people will agree with me that to arrest try and convict all criminals is the job of the police not killing that is the law and it is how guyana will get order anyway i am still hooked on the roger khan soap will see if so many will gloat at his end and the final results of his trial i know lot of people are not sleeping well at nights.

ker
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 12:51 pm:
No one placed a gun into their hands; it was a lifestyle of THEIR OWN choosing that got them killed. People like you are always looking for someone else to blame. It’s time to cut the crap and face reality.

How many didn’t go through worse under Burnham but never reacted in this brutal animalistic manner? You are only fooling yourself if you think that the blame can be thrown elsewhere. The truth is that everyone wants but no wants to work. It the lazy get rich quick mentality that put fienman where he is today.

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Fineman cousin
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 2:03 pm:
son i dont know you and you dont know me all i am saying is that justice must be done it does not matter where, what or who when roger khan was taken look at the anguish and tears that were shed i have lived a long time and have seen a lot an i also keep records i remember when a known murderer was killed in a shootout with the authorities some years ago jagdeo had to go and quell the uproar on at springlands the officers involved were disciplined for doing their job nobody talked about live by the sword die by the sword or lazy and get rich quick mentality so before i call you the r word i will leave it at that because you and others like minded have revealed yourselves

CURIOUS GEORGE
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 3:40 pm:
I was oppressed by Burnham Dictatoship as a child. I was bullied and treated racially in school. I was pulled out of school to join lines for bread, cheese, soap, oil and everything else for basic survival under Burnham Dictatorship. I hope you were around long enough to remember this! Oh I’m sorry. You cannot relate to this because maybe you were on the other side of the aisle? If you were not I would have love to have you as an advocate for me. Maybe I would not have been dysfunctional and it would not be a secret that I’m the “R” word dear Fineman cousin. PS thanks for my family for making a better life for me in the U.S. and now that there is no dictatorship I go back to Guyana and have a nice time.

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 5:07 pm:
KER

Stop with your anti-realist mentality. What are you talking about??

That is why if you kill someone for me I will kill you, then someone for you will kill me, then someone for me will kill the person that kill me, and it goes on and on.

Well this is the twenty-first century, don’t talk foolishness.

When the government riddle an escapee as he was about to hand a tape over to the americans at the embassy—who talk up???

When they pump fraser off who talked up? when they murdered shakar blair and exile his killer on the islands—perhaps hoping to clean his slate, who speak up??

Brother, I am a black sister, and I love all my Guyanese, people–but justice is justice!!

How long will you stand by your own side, and me stand by my own—killing each other senselessly???

What is this execution business of wanted men, why not take them through the judicial procedures/??

I am fed up with guyanese talking bull*** it is time for all black, indian etc to demand answers from the government.

justice for our darn youths who they shut up by killing them then pining it on innocent people.

You don’t give your mouth liberty, you ask yourself what is it you are really defending and talking.

I don’t see no get rich quick mentality—all these darn crimes and killing, are beyong riches.

fineman cousin is not talking crap….he is being logical.

I am not applauding no criminal for their crimes—all are entitle to an hearing.

Let us know the truth, you don’t know a thing. That’s why you are getting all upset and running your mouth where soup is flowing.

ya i said it!!!!!!

ALL GUYANESE NEED TO STOP THIS RACIAL, POLITICAL PARTY SIDE-BY-SIDE THING AND BE REAL.

UNITEEEEEEEEEEE AND STOMP OUT THIS COMMUNISTS BOLONEY

supererro
In reply to the above comment on August 30th, 2008 1:19 am:
KUDOS TO YOU, SISTER Chocolat.eCCM. COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER.

ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on August 29th, 2008 4:48 pm:
well said fineman cousin well said.

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