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Guyana still in group of most corrupt

-latest Transparency International survey
Guyana still ranks among the most corrupt countries, slipping three places on the Transparency International (TI) 2008 Corruption Percep-tion Index (CPI) released yesterday.

In a survey of 180 countries, Guyana fell to 126 with a score of 2.6 out of 10. It is the lowest ranked English-speaking Caribbean nation on the list and the second lowest ranked Caricom territory behind Haiti.

Based in Germany, TI is a non governmental organization working to root out corruption. The CPI measures the perceived levels of corruption among public officials and politicians in countries, based on different expert and business surveys. Four surveys were used to determine Guyana’s score.

President Bharrat Jagdeo has consistently criticised the number of indicators that have been used to assess Guyana in the past as well as the sources responsible for the data.

For the Caribbean, St. Lucia ranked highest at 21 with a rating of 7.1, followed by Barbados at 22 with a 7.0 rating and St. Vincent and the Grenadines at 28 with a rating of 6.5. Cuba (65), Suriname (72), Trinidad and Tobago (72), Jamaica (96) and the Dominican Republic (102) also received higher ratings.

Guyana shares its ranking with seven other countries: Indonesia, Honduras, Ethio-pia, Uganda, Libya, Eritrea and Mozambique.
Professor Johann Graf Lambsdorff of the University of Passau, who carries out the Index for TI, said an improvement in the CPI by one point (on the 10-point scale) increases capital inflows by 0.5% of a country’s gross domestic product and average incomes by as much as 4%.

Denmark, Sweden and New Zealand shared the highest score on the index at 9.3, while Haiti at 1.4, Iraq and Myanmar at 1.3 and Somalia at 1.0 were deemed the most corrupt.

In an official statement, TI said persistently high corruption in low-income countries amounts to an ongoing humanitarian disaster that cannot be tolerated. “In the poorest countries, corruption levels can mean the difference between life and death, when money for hospitals or clean water is in play,” Huguette Labelle, Chair of Trans-parency International, was quoted as saying in the statement.

TI said whether in high or low-income countries, the challenge of reigning in corruption requires functioning societal and governmental institutions. Poorer countries are often plagued by corrupt judiciaries and ineffective parliamentary oversight, it said. On the other hand, wealthy countries show evidence of insufficient regulation of the private sector, particularly in terms of addressing overseas bribery by their countries, and weak oversight of financial institutions and transactions. “Stemming corruption requires strong oversight through parliaments, law enforcement, independent media and a vibrant civil society,” Labelle said. “When these institutions are weak, corruption spirals out of control with horrendous consequences for ordinary people and for justice and equality in societies more broadly.”

TI also said that in low-income countries, rampant corruption jeopardises the global fight against poverty and threatens to derail the UN Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). According to its 2008 Global Corruption Report, unchecked levels of corruption would add US$50 billion or nearly half of annual global aid outlays to the cost of achieving the MDG on water and sanitation. As a result, it is urging a redoubling of efforts in low-income countries, where the welfare of significant portions of the population hangs in the balance. It is also calling for a more focused and coordinated approach by the global donor community to ensure development assistance is designed to strengthen institutions of governance and oversight in recipient countries, and that aid flows are fortified against abuse and graft.

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159 Responses to “Guyana still in group of most corrupt”

amen-ra
on September 24th, 2008 5:48 am

Well this news is not new, we all know guyana is corrupt, when a minister can shoot his gun in the public and still have a job we know that is corruption. when a magistrate can shoot a police officer and nothing is done it’s corruption. I’m glad that transparency international is putting the spotlight on the country, maybe they would start to get in line.,

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geeteerebel
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:08 am:
Question is how do we stop corruption in our beloved yet dysfunctional country?

Those of us in the Diaspora can use international tool such as the UN Convention against Corruption and perhaps the Caribbean Court of Justice.
NOTE: The asset recovery tool is huge.

But in the end, it’s on the ground in Guyana where most of the fight will have to start.
Local (regional) governments who don’t tolerate corruption in their local region would be a good start.

How can a government think its ok to place a VAT tax of 16% on the population then give non-disclosure contracts? This is the “PEOPLE” monies.

The media should sue the Government for this info. Of course that will go nowhere but we can then take that start to the international community, starting with the CCJ then the UN or British high commission.

And for those who can’t see this as a problem here is some info from the world bank.

1. The World Bank has stated that “bribery has become a $1 trillion industry.”
2. Corruption erodes the rule of law and harms the reputation of and trust in the state.
3. Corruption deters investment and hinders growth. It spurs inequality and erodes macroeconomic and fiscal stability.

God Bless our Beloved Country and its people.

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Faceboy
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 2:15 pm:
Here are a few suggestions: {1} Pay the work force a decent salary {2} those caught dealing in corruption, fire them, take away all that they own and place them in jail. {3} interduce the ‘polograph testing’ once every 5 yrs. starting with those at the top. Those who bribe and accept bribes are all part of the corrupt epidemic that has our country on the Transparency Internatioal radar. Start Now.

drumup_change
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 2:30 pm:
…………..this melt down would send a serious message to the jagdeo adminstration……..who would want to lend you money when you refuse to curbe curruption…..the pressure cooker is on the fire………let see how long this adminstration will hold up…….some people live by corruption and die by corruption…

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Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:57 pm:
This is long overdue. Guyana is one of the most seedy countries,corrupt,dirty and crawling with criminals.In the government and out.

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decanadianCarlVeecock
on September 24th, 2008 6:04 am

Cause for celebration!
Guyana is not the least corrupt country and that speaks well for the gov’t!

The Presee should not bother about the mechanics of the calculation of the
Index:, quote
“Pesident Bharrat Jagdeo has consistently criticised the number of indicators that have been used to assess Guyana in the past as well as the sources responsible for the data.”

Check List par moi:

All de Ministers are honest
The public servants are all honest
Traders are the most honest, They do not short change customers
The best of all, the police force is devoted to their jobs and would never
accept offers
And of course the drug squad is detector free

Time for celebration.

The government should declare a public holiday named;
“Not the least honest country in the world”.

Hooray!

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Omkar
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:04 am:
Where do you reside now?

How did you fare and what should you celebrate?

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i4ithal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:13 pm:
Omkar bai

wan gyal just call me up n tell meh she pay sum chap $3,000.00 guyana dolla fah police clearance cause she wan go bvi go live, den he tell she fah go a eveleary n pick it up from some police gyal deh….., but she nah get it ….a weh you does live!

james
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:48 pm:
i4ithal , do u see how the curroption starts. Police clearance is a very simple thing to get but guyanese don’t like to wait they prefer to pay their money then turn back and blame gov’t.

decanadianCardVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 3:24 am:
My..my..Omkar !

This one passed over your head !

You totally missed the sarcasm!

Touché

briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:24 am:
The president can try to discredit the survey by his questions but we all know that the country is very corrupt; now the world knows maybe its indeed time to celebrate because something might be done about it(hopefully)

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MACK
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:46 am:
I don’t care what measure they use. Corruption in Guyana is rampant and the Government nor the people are doing anything about it. First the people need to stop trying to get a leg up on each other, by bribing people to do their jobs. The government then need to set up a system to deal with those who collect bribes, and pass illegal contracts to unqualified contractors, simply because they are their supporters.

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Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:53 am:
Carl I tink di people dem miss dat u were bein sarcastic. Yuh might waan fuh leh dem kno.

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GY2008
on September 24th, 2008 6:46 am

Opps! No Surprise.

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GY2008
on September 24th, 2008 6:51 am

What is TI definition of corruption?

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Ksing
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:04 am:
the definition of corruption is standard why would TI change it.

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Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:15 pm:
It reached it’s peak under the PNC.For 28 years. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

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queen
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 12:32 pm:
No, do YOU get it now?
It’s reached it’s peak under your obviously revered PPP rule.

Andrew
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 9:59 pm:
DAVI, V GEORGE:

What in the world does the PNC have to do with this? I have neither seen nor heard of any PNC-related statistics on corruption.

You probably stand alone on this one; I do not think that anyone else is so naive as to try to blame the PNC for the declared and obvious shortcomings of the PPP.
Forbes Moore
on September 24th, 2008 7:00 am

Here we go again. Imperical evidence. I wonder what spin the Pres. gon put on this one. My brother, an ex GDF officer, and retired judge, always told me. Don’t blame the Ranks. Blame the Officers for any indiscipline in the army. The same holds true for civilian rule. What a damn shame. This is one time I will tell my kids not to boast that they are Guyanese.

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RS
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:40 am:
Were is the imperial evidence? Prove it? Has SN shown or listed the criterion for which Guyana was judged? No they have not. Every year they release the same regurgitate report in an attempt to chastise the GOG because they are not pro PNC like most of the bloggers. What other organization do such as test as TI.

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briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:26 am:
RS get off this PNC thing and look at whats going on. Some things you just cant put a spin on.

Charles
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:37 am:
Corruption is widespread in Guyana. PNC, PPP/C, both administrations condone corruption. It exists throughout the world. The President should not cover up the wrong doing of public officials as is the case. These corrupt individuals, by their actions, do not contribute to nation building and should be dealt with according to law reguardless of political affiliation. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. There is no small thief nor big thief.

Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:47 am:
after 16 yrs in govt the PNC is still to blame for the PPP’s immeasurable shortcomings!?!?!? When will you open your brain & mind to fresh air. THINK, REASON, ANALISE EMANCIPATE YOURSELF FROM MENTAL SERFDOM

Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:06 pm:
RS. There is none so blind as those who can’t see. There is none so deaf as those who can’t hear. STICK BRUCK IN YO EARS? MUD COVER YO EYES? The reality in Guyana proves my case. From the moment you enter the air port, until you leave. corruption, corruption & corruption. I go to GY regularly. You DISPROVE the FACTS. I don’t give a damn about PPP or PNC they deserve each other. They are two peas in a pod. Let us wait and see what the Pres. will do when he leaves office. The govt. was supposed to take us out of this mess, not enlage it.

Charriot
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:48 pm:
RS!!!! PPP lover, you’re in denial.

LoveGT4Real
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 4:21 pm:
Have you not understood that this survey targeted 180 countries?
Tell me, what is the vested interest for TI to unfairly target “little” Guyana?
Whatever the measuring rule used here was also used on 179 other countries my friend.

Omkar
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:19 am:
How did the USA fare?

From your viewpoint the USA is probably completely sterile.

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amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:14 am:
The u.s.s is also corrupt too, and when someone is caught he’s is made to resign immediately,and is or brought up on charges or investigated.

Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:06 pm:
Fact is there is corruption in the USA,Europe,etc,but there are checks and balances here.In Guyana there is and was no checks and balances.Criminals who ruled the naton are still free. Murders remain unsolved.Backroom deals go unpunished.
Satish
on September 24th, 2008 7:21 am

For many decades, India was ranked very corrupt by most international organisations and indeed it may still be ranked as very corrupt in this current survey, however no one can dispute that India is now one of the most industrialising countries of the world.

Countries like India, China etc have a kind of corruption flavoured with patriotism and it does seem to result in accelerated progress.
In governmental systems entrenched in log-jams and restrictive officialdom, it is sometimes necessary to have alternative ways to fast track decision making. Mostly these systems would be labelled corrupt however as India and China have graphically demonstrated, being flexible with the ‘rules’ may be necessary to accelerate progress.
Therefore President Bharrat Jagdeo is right to caution that foreign indicators about Guyana must be looked at with a common sense approach.

Even wealthy ‘purer’ countries are criticised by this survey in relation with having insufficient regulation of the private sector and weak oversight of financial institutions and transactions.
The ‘corruption’ of these systems are clear to any of us who are currently following the disaster which is hitting the world and originating in Wall Street, New York, USA.

In the Transparency International survey, St. Lucia is ranked high at 21 out of 180
Guyana is ranked very low at 126 out of 180 i.e. more corrupt.
I know I would still regard Guyana as the better country overall and it is clear to see that since gaining democracy about 20 years ago Guyana is in the ascendancy and indeed continuing to make progress.

Although we should work to reduce corruption, we should not get too depressed by surveys but just put our heads down and get on with the next twenty years of progress. It is PROGRESS which is the holy grail.

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Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 8:53 am:
Satish. Stop the spin. It is what it is. I respectfully ask you to take your head out of the sand. There is nothing to defend. I love my country, just as you apparently do. But let’s call a spade a spade. GUYANA IS CORRUPT. You can’t put lip stick on a pig. ( laugh )

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owenon123
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 7:28 pm:
Lol yes indeed, “YOU CAN PUT LIP STICK ON A PIG.” but it still going to be a “PIGY.” Correct (CORRUPT) is right in Guyana…lol.

briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:20 am:
Satish you got to be joking!!! Guyana is in the ascendency? What planet are you on.

If you mean ascendency where corrution is concerned then i’m with you but if you mean in terms of progress then you need to wake up.

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Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:23 am:
So Satish, you’re saying that in order for Guyana to be acclaimed among the “industrialising” countries we have to endure some form of corruption to get there? Are you saying that India & China advanced into the “industrialising” countries because of corruption or were the corrupt governments removed prior to their advancement & growth? Can you oblige me by expounding a bit more on the “corruption flavoured with patriotism”/?Correct me if I’m wrong but are you saying it is good to be corrupt if it is for the “good” of the country?? Should I understand that there is a “good” form of “corruption”? Like others, I’m just trying to make “sense” of your comments.

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Desilu
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:50 pm:
I guess what you mean is that in Guyana corruption is ‘ascending’ the ladder all the way to the topmost rungs, and “progressing” along the road to absolute chaos! My friends from India and China talk about their future plans as they go back home. Me? To think about going back to Guyana is to court death, poverty, robbery with violence, extortion, rape … u get my drift, Satish?

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gtbeat
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:21 pm:
Well don’t go back.

Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 29th, 2008 10:45 pm:
All Third World nations are more corrupt than developed nations.That is why they will never reach the stage of development.Ever.

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freespeech
on September 24th, 2008 7:25 am

did they have this before 1992. if not we cannot have a favorable comparison of improvement.
let the critics anti PPP have their picnic field day.

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Ksing
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:02 am:
why the need for comparsion & what would the result say that their was corruption prior to 1992 and it is somewhat less now . the crooks of the matter is the agency found ecidences of corruption now and that is what needs to be addressed. having a corrupt regime as your predessor give one no rigt to continue those trends. the change came because it was those corrupt practices that persons were fed up of.

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Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:06 am:
freespeech. Even if I agree with you that it was there before. What has the present government done to improve this disgraceful situation? The PPP is the party in power. The fault, dear freespeech, is not in the stars, but in the hands of the GOVERNMENT. i AM NOT ANTI PPP.

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freespeech
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:13 am:
i did not say i agree wit what the govt. is doing, corruption was embedded in our society before 1992, to eradicate such practices will take time and drastic measures. they used the polygraph test and the critics apposed, they fired the corrupt they say its racist, or they take to the streets, so what do you want the govt to do.

MACK
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:55 am:
Freespeech, once again we are comparing the PPP and the PNC. Yes the PNC had corruption and we condemned them then, so now the PPP is in power it is OK for them to to the same thing. Does this mean two wrongs make it right?

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Mohamed
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:58 am:
No Mact The PNC did have corruption but YOU DID NOT CONDEMN THEM!

briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:41 pm:
Mack take heart some people cannot see pass yheir noses. I agree with you that in the days of the PNCthere was corruption and there was an outcry and condemnation from some members of the public, Now that we know that there is corruption under the PPP regime there is reason to condemn.
If they cant take the condemnation then its time to stamp out corruption.

LoveGT4Real
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 4:58 pm:
Anyone who is old enough, and honest enough,would admit that the PNC was a corrupt and dictatorial regime. The question is, are we not suppose to be enjoying 16 years of transparency and Glorious Democracy? If so then why are some among us are trying to defend an administration that is overloaded with corrupt officials?……………..Corruption is a global disease and those most infected are usually at the top of the food chain, remember that!

By the way freespeech, on whom were the polygraph test conducted, the ministers or some poor souls who were condemned by them?
This administration has boasted of removing dishonest public servants in an attempt to stamp out corruption, but ended up replacing them with persons who turned out to be even more corrupt by a long mile.

And to Mohamed, under Burnham who could protest? Not even Dr. Jagan.

The PPP love the accolades that go along with being referred to as “Democratic” but the real price to pay for having this democracy is that people should be able to shout from the roof tops, so stop comparing now with the time when Burnham ruled with a heavy hand.

Amarie
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:53 am:
A typical apologist answer…the reason why Guyana is where it is. What has this to do with pre 1992 or the price of sugar? The point is corruption is rampant in Guyana NOW. When will Guyanese “pull up their socks” and stop passing the buck? The PNC is, for all intents and purposes, a dead horse…stop flogging it and move on!!!

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Charriot
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 2:26 pm:
You are so right!!! They are trying to find reason to justify the PPP’s corrupt government by comparing it to pre 1992.

tiger
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 2:30 pm:
It is clear to all guyanese living abroad that we have a very corrupt administration at present and let me add that the former regime was also corrupt, but the situation now is very ramphant and has attained an alltime high. The drugs found on flights coming out of guyana is also an example of corrupt and dishonest practices which the security entities at the country’s main and only international airport SEEMS NOT TO NOTICE so taking all this into consideration and more i did’nt mention it’s not surprising at all for others to rate us this low as a corrupt nation.

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Badlall
on September 24th, 2008 7:36 am

Billions spent or otherwise “disbursed” on the two basic things in life water and electricity still there is no reliable water or electricity for the nation. ………this is a true life example of CORRUPTION. To mention other corruption will fill this cup …sorry i mean page…

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On the look out
on September 24th, 2008 7:37 am

What a shame to this nation. This is no surprise after all that has been happeining in Guyana. Allowing an alleged drug pig Roger khan to help fight crime as he claimed is corruption from the top going to the bottom. Let’s see how jadgeo will explain this one to the nation. I agree that Guyana is among the most corrupted countries on planet earth. Lots of evidence to convince one of this fact.

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G.T
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 3:15 pm:
I couldnt agree with you more

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gtgyal82
on September 24th, 2008 8:19 am

we dont need a Germany company to tell us that Guyana is corrupted!

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briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:31 am:
gtgyal i’m definetely with you on this. we all should know we dont need outsiders to tell us this. Guyana is corrupt.

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Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:08 pm:
Gimme a break. Are you saying the best way to examine one’s self is self examination?You will never hear Guyana is corrupt if you wait on a politician to say those words.

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evileyes
on September 24th, 2008 8:28 am

The Govt is not corrupt:::Common sense must tell you this:::The TI report should read like this…those people who pay bribes to police officers…immigration officers…passport officials….drivers licence officials..the list can go on and on…Bribes bribes and more bribes is corruption to the gill…Some of these people were inherited from the previous PNC Govt….But when this Govt tried to kick them out the street protest gets into full gear…Those who offer bribes and those who ask for bribes to do their jobs should be jailed…Bang…No corruption.

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John Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:23 am:
Evileyes, I am on your case again. You want me to provide you with evidence that key government officials are involved in plethora of surreptitious acts? People need to take their heads out of the sand and stop pretending that all is well. We know PNC was corrupt they are gone, this government is just as bad or worse.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:42 am:
awwww Jhonny…..u give me vigour to fight on ehehehehe….whenever its all said and done….even if this govt if is thiefing they dont thief all like the previous govt…they thief all de ppl money and the 2.1 billion US too….need proof of that?

John Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:20 pm:
Hey Evil, my friend, I agree with you again (for the third time) PNC stuff their pocket but now they are R-eformed, they changed their ways (I am joking about the change ways thing). With the speed this party going with, it is going to take less the 28 years to inapproprate 2.1 billion $US.

I am glad I give you the vigour to to fight, we have to channel that vigour to fight wrong where we see it. You need to change that name you have though. (smile)

briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:43 pm:
Way to go John

evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:43 pm:
Jhonny you and me have to agree man coz we are Guyanese first and foremost….ehehehehe….dont let this Canadian flag fool anyone ehehehehe….
Braintee aint got a clue as to what you and me talking bout eheheehehehe…..
cant chage de name man…..i went from evil eye to evil eyes just like my beloved went from PNC to PNCR but we still got the same stripes (: God bless man and same for your family too…lets keep this democracy here alive……

LoveGT4Real
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 5:05 pm:
Pardon my ignorance, but where did the US$2.1 billion go?
I don’t see any old PNC member living large, so could either John or evileyes help me out here?

amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:34 am:
and the blame game continues.

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tyronemiller
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:10 am:
Evileyes u always comparing PNC time with the PPP time u just dnt get it the world is so advance now i think u r still livin in the past ……no body never say that the weren’t corruption in PNC time …..but under the regime that u r defendin the are blatant……i’ll b waitin on u mr evileyes when the RK case finish i’ll b waitin to c if u r an optomistic kind of person who also has a change of heart ….

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:55 pm:
i neva change me mind ehehehe rajah fuh prezidente…of guyana ehehehehe

Chemist
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:25 am:
When will you begin to accept truths, or even confess them. Unless persons can accept or identify wrongs they are doomed to failure. Maybe you like the prominent others cant seen to figure wrong from right so corruption is common to your everyday existance. Stop blaming the past, we are in the now. Sorry you cant see progressively.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:03 pm:
if you forget the past you are doomed to fail and most likely repeat it..for the past will come back and bite ya….should we forget slavery?should we forget the holocaust?should we forget that it was Burnham & Hoyte that brought Guyana from the RICHEST TO THE POOREST?…this is what this present Govt trying to stop….Should we forget what was inherited? ehehehehe come again all

DMACK
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:35 am:
It’s statement like this that cause Guyana to be in this situation, we have a serious problem, we cannot see the wood for the trees, it’s not the PPP or PNC fault, it’s our fault we the ppl, we put them in power for fear and fake loyalty, at our detriment, foreigners will not want to invest in this country “only drug dealers and criminal” like one blogger stated. Guyana it is time stop this….pro PPP….pro PNC or…..pro African ….pro Indian, why not be PRO GUYANESE and stop being the jokers of the region, only we can change this, they don’t care.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:32 pm:
DMACK::::Who you calling jokers you comic?Try getting rid of the PNC and the PPP…see what is left….Ttotman….A proud x PNC….Ramjhattan….A miserable xx PPP…Days for Rigging are gone…..PNC never won an election held ever in Guyana’s history…..was that pro Guyanese? the joke is on you now joker ehehehe

DMACK
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 5:11 am:
It was not my intension to make this personal, but if you want to go there I have no problem with that. The point I was trying to make, is not too get rid of the PPP or PNC, but to know what exactly we are demanding from them that will benefit Guyanese at home and abroad.

tyronemiller
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 12:25 am:
evileyes u cant even c further than ur nose …there is absolutely no way u can defend the gov on corruption for example…..police merai taped in a conversation allegedly makin a deal with a drug dealer admitted to it have u heard back anything abt that….the minister who gun butted the kid then drove his car on have u heard anything abt that …..do u know what the small man would say if a police or a minister can do it n get off i can do the same it goes to show if u r not in a certain bracket with the king pins dnt get caught. …..Juilet-Holder-Allen was sent on perminent leaf just for carryin out her duties as a magistrate ……

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 28th, 2008 11:55 pm:
they all deserved what they got…can you really see further than your own nose on this………
truegt
on September 24th, 2008 8:44 am

i wonder where the usa came in this? but no,world curruption dont count…….

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torbo
on September 24th, 2008 8:54 am

satish you can spin this one all you want but the bottom line the world
sees guyana as a corrupt country and would be hesitant to do business
with guyana, guyana will only attract one type of business people thieves,
narco traffickers, swindlers,pimps,casino gamblers and underworld thugs
i guess that is what you would call development in the next twenty years.

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bgsbny
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:18 am:
eh ! what’s up with the ” guyana will only attract one type of business people ” blah blah blah ,,, GUYANA did not have to attract those kinds of career professionals ,, ! they have been there !….

if u take ur head out of the sand ,, u will probably ,, — like the reat of the world –,, see them,, here’s a hint ,, after the nat’l purse ran dry as did everything else ,, world opinion helped to kick them out in ‘92,,, and in the next 20 years ,, if they are not totally silenced their ridicule will leave them stck in a time continuum !…..

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colt45
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:22 am:
Torbo are you sure you are not referring to good ole USA in your comment.

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Spin Bowling..Numbers
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:23 am:
If USA score 7.3 out of 10 for a population of 301,139,947. Then 81,307,786 people corrupt.(i.e 27% of 301,139,947) thats plently more than the population in Guyana. So which country has more corrupt people?

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Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:32 am:
Just like you worked out the PERCENTAGES for the US now do the same for our beautiful land of our birth!

Spin Bowling..Numbers
In reply to the above comment on September 26th, 2008 5:11 am:
Are you thick or what? I am trying to put a spin on numbers…stats stats and damn lies
kabaka
on September 24th, 2008 8:59 am

I dont know about you,but i am a Guyanese and proud of it.My quality and personality is not determined by any statistic ,favourable or un-favourable coments in the media or schools of thought. I will always stand proud and continue to display my countrys flag.WE may have left those shores a long time ago ,but in our private moments we cherish being who we are.

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Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:24 pm:
kabaka. Please print the article and show it proudly to your Canadian friends and work mates. Make some flyers and proudly distribute them while holding the Guyana flag. This is a dark moment for all Guyanese. We are advancing to the rear. We are now competing with Haiti for first place.

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Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:10 pm:
You’re a joke. Living in another naton after you ran from tumbledown Guyana, and look what you are saying.

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Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 27th, 2008 9:28 am:
Davi. You did not get the IRONY. I hope you know what an irony is. I will not degenerate myself to name calling. I leave that to men of lesser minds.

Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 29th, 2008 10:38 pm:
U have to learn to word your replies more concise boy,or you may get replies like mine.To correct you in kindergarten.

Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 30th, 2008 10:32 am:
Davi. Thanks for the advice. I may need it in high school. You are the greatest.

decanadianCardVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 3:52 am:
Agreed kabaka…quote “WE may have left those shores a long time ago ,but in our private moments we cherish being who we are.”
Agreed.

But will you NOW FACE REALITY?
1. bribery and corruption are now the norm
2. are those characteristics to be cherished?
3. nostalgia is fine, but where the existential conditions have radically
changed, your nostalgic comments should be cautioned with
” in my time …etc etc ”

You get it ?

That is REALITY CHECK

You still have that name on your car plates?

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Spin Bowling
on September 24th, 2008 9:11 am

Russia score 2.1

Zimbabwe score 1.8 where GY would have been if Burnham and the PNC was still in Power.

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zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:49 am:
For your info, you can spin bowl all you want .This goevrnment was voted in to implement change. The change was suppose to be for the better not the worse. If you read the two key words mention was SLIPPING and FELL. Guyana slipping three points ,fell to 126. ……………………………………………… That is not the change they were voted in for.

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DMACK
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:16 pm:
Are you for real SPIN BOWLING, Burnham has been dead for 23yrs; the PNC has been out of power for 16yrs, what are you talking about?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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briantee
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:56 pm:
I am offifially sick and tired of you people beating on Burnham and the PNC. Look the PNC has been out of power for a long long time. Dont blame them for whats happening now. As the saying goes “gi jack he jacket”

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Davi,V George.
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 10:02 pm:
In an escapable hole. Of no return. Incidentally, I recall the time when the PNC gave this same despot Mugabe $100,000 a year for freedom fighters,when he was at the said time oppressing Guyanese.Now this Mugabe crony of his turns out to be more racist,incompetent,and did the same thing like the PNC. Bankrupt the nation.Again,you cannot allow people with no credibility,economic base, or no track record of competent management to run a nation.The result is disaster. as we all witnessed.

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John Smith
on September 24th, 2008 9:14 am

I am sure most of us are not surprised with TI’s findings, then there are other who are going to ask for evidence to prove. I personally know of relatives of high ranking members of the government, given scholarships to study (not in Cuba) at universities in US, India, England etc. As soon as they graduate they just migrate to Canada or the US, they do not serve this country, they only serve themselves. This is just a spec of sand on top of the proverbial mountain.

In the PNC times, people with the ‘palm tree card’ were placed ahead of the line, now you just whisper CUP and oh boy, things become easier for you. It is no better now than then, nepotism is the word of the day. Our county is CORRUPT,CORRUPT, CORRUPT!! , period.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 12:10 pm:
ehehe you forget to mention that we had guy-lines in the previous govt..how many pnc govt ministers sons and daughters did like wise? come on John you know better than that….

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John Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:30 pm:
Evil, you drunk or them eyes gon blind. I said you have you card in those days and you are placed ahead in the line, you call it Guy-line, same line. Evil, you seem to be grabbing at anything without reading. I know you have a horrid name but you ent no devil. Let us work together and rid our country of all these crooks. You can’t fight this battle from behind that maple leaf, you need to come here and don’t bring any cup with you.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:53 pm:
OH NO JHONNY:::YOU DONT WANT TO SEE MY STANLEY CUP? ehehehehe
ah bin deh in August an comin back fuh xmas my friend…to tell you the truth man…i love those kids at the orphange…the one in kitty for the bos and the one on the east coast for those poor little girls…i give a lot bro and its not all talks…can prove it as well…no political party in or out of Guyana can get a penny from me…..those kids at the orphange are the ones that get to me most…Jhonny I know you are like me and dont take this political crap seriously….They need more people like you and me to make this world spin….some ppl just got carried away with bs politics and nothing will ever change…In all and every sigle country..Politicians will fill their and their friends pocket…..Some of us fail to see what politics is all about…….Politicas +Religion= Deadly mixture…Let me see if you agree with me on this….ah still bringing me stanley (cup) though ehehehe

Light
In reply to the above comment on September 26th, 2008 3:21 pm:
evileyes; your intentions are good and should be commended in terms of your charitable work.
However, helping poor and vulnerable families to set up micro and medium businesses; rearing of goats, sheep, ducks, chickens or with a skill/trade - making furniture, concrete blocks, hairdressing, baking and food production and sale etc; can go a far way in preventing many of these poor children from ending up in these orphanages.
By teaching and helping the poor and needy to fish, removes the need to constantly give them a fish.
This will aslo help to remove the need for charity and government ‘handouts’.
Just something I am exploring to do myself and and though I should share with others.
Shea30
on September 24th, 2008 9:20 am

Like the article says countries with poor economies have a strong tendency to also be very corrupt — that’s why the focus of the government should be to strenght the economy and I don’t mean selling out its riches to foreign countries. Guyana needs to find away to make itself profitable from its natural resources.

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freespeech
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 9:55 am:
there is a thing called capital, unless we we sell it out to the industrial nation they will not invest, where they did and now try to restrict their operations they are call terrorist. or anti whatever,
its all about economic control, we cannot developed unless we can come up with our own capital, one project at a time, the world bank only entrap these poor countries to more devastation, they only invest in projects that will be destroyed in a few years and 90% of the finance is returned to the industrial countries.

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Fulano de Tal
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 11:50 am:
Thanks freespeech. How do you suggest we raise this capital, taking money from drug dealers & gun smugglers???
Most people will agree that Shea30 has a point. We do need to leverage our natural resources & bring the country out of the pit it’s in. Not by selling out to OMAI, BARAMA & the like. Countries are financed through taxes, exports, foreign exchange, tourism, to name a few. The US jails people for tax evasion. How many people in Guyana you can “honestly” say, file a tax return??? Stiffer penalties for tax-evasion are needed. Other countries need to be confident in the integrity of our produce for export so we can get much needed foreign exchange & monies from export & taxes.
Those are just some of the ways countries get capital, so what is your point Sir freespeech???

LoveGT4Real
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 9:54 am:
I like how you depicted the world bank freespeech,

Those of us who don’t know better like to sing praised to these global institutions, but they are nothing but oppressive bodies. They have absolutely no interest in seeing poor countries elevated out of their misery. In fact, if the IMF and World Bank can keep the ‘third world” indebted to them for the next few centuries it would be very good business for them.
Spin Bowling..Numbers
on September 24th, 2008 9:27 am

By The Way:

Russia scored 2.1

Zimbabwe ( could have been the PNC) scored 1.8

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quibian
on September 24th, 2008 10:09 am

the usa scored 7.3. what a laugh. ask the people who lost their money from the collapse of fannie mae, freddie mac, aig, lehman brothers,enron, etc.

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Omkar
on September 24th, 2008 10:49 am

SN is domiciled in Guyana.

Is SN corrupt or anyone at SN guilty or prone to corruption?

If not and it is true then decanadianCarlVeecock and the throng can celebrate.

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decanadianCardVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 3:40 am:
Well Omkar,if you don’t like SN, why are you reading it?

Why are you waisting time make multitudinous posts on the SN web site it you don’t like reading it?

Seems that you got nuff time on yuh hands!

And what is this comment about whether SN is prone to corruption?

It nat meke sense.

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coolieman
on September 24th, 2008 11:08 am

Seems like u anti govt bloggers is having a field day . TI is not a transparent organisation, how can they judge a country , they are only working with the opposition, they dont take evidence from progressive people or organisations that is why stabroek made it their headline

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amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:14 pm:
coolieman stop the nonsense, and accept the facts.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:59 pm:
wat are de facts?Guyana and Guyanses are corrupt…so wat? no other country in de world is not corrupt…suh we bring fuss in de world….we shoud be given a gold medal fuh dat ehehehehe yipeeeeeee we bring fuss in de world in Corruption with a capitol ((( A )))) wink wink if yuh know wha de A fuh ehehehe

Forbes Moore
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:36 pm:
coolieman. What happen man, yo shame? Is this cross too heavy for you to carry? I feel your pain. Ow man, no one is perfect. Not even the PPP.

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SOESDYKE
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 6:17 pm:
I don’t care for the ppp or the pncr . But i know one thing for sure, Guyana is very corrupt. And both races are guilty of corruption. Ps look what happen to the cop in Berbice, he found out corruption dose not pay.

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Fulano de Tal
on September 24th, 2008 11:16 am

The govt. ought to refuse money from drug dealers, stop persecuting innocent civillians, stop giving their friends a slap on the wrist for their crimes & stop putting pressure on the freedom of expression & squeezing the independent media, take their head out of the sand & accept that Guyana in a corrupt society, stop the nepotism, employing their friends & denying qualified personnel the right to a job e.g. the removal of a career diplomat like Mrs. M. C. Miles from our embassy in Brazil to put Nawbatt……….
NEED I GO ON OR CAN YOU FIGURE OUT THE REST ON YOUR OWN???????

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 5:57 pm:
who is innocent they are prosecutin? name one

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malaika06
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 7:09 pm:
Hey evil, Fulano said “persecuting” not “prosecuting”. But for good measure, ever heard of Oliver Hinckson? he’s a victim of both!
michael tannassee
on September 24th, 2008 11:20 am

ehh ! what’s up doc ? ,, chomp ,, chew ,,chew ,,,, eh looks like since i cam eback from de queens england an told all ahyee how i saw de men playng criket allahyee has now bcome spin bowlers ,, ok ,, juss so yuh know spin bowling frum what i learned has a purpose ,, and that purpose is too either contain de man with de bat ,, or else remove him !,,,,

so make sure u go to de queens englind an wiel yee dare vist the places of learning ,, like oxford ,, and cambride ,, and u must got o de libraries !,,,,,,,

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REALITY
on September 24th, 2008 11:24 am

The more i read the comments on many issues in guyana, the more i come to the realization that Guyana has a race problem and the two major races. indo guyanese and afro guyanese need to stop the foolish finger pointing and race baiting and realize that in this changing global economy a country such as guyana with less than a million people will get no where unless they come together and find a sensible media.This is 2008 and we cant go back and fix anything that has past but corruption and race baiting is not the answer stop pointing fingers and come up with a solution all you political pundits.

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amen-ra
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:17 pm:
i agree with you, reality.

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Fulano de Tal
on September 24th, 2008 11:28 am

Oh & another thing the govt can do in “the land of many waters” is to approve for flush toilets in the outlying area schools so we do not lose our young minds to cesspit accidents.
Not that I think any form of approval is necessary but…….. just saying

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vatvic
on September 24th, 2008 12:41 pm

Cronyism and nepotism in Guyana is now institutionalized.
The report is an accurate indicator of Guyana, we who live here know this is so.
Transparency International is respected worldwide and is quoted by the MSM of all Democratic Countries including the BBC and CNN

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bing
on September 24th, 2008 12:43 pm

Stop the hocus pocus people every country as levels of corruption. Stop the blame game pnc vs. ppp. They all allow corruption. There is corruption in the USA too when taxpayers money is used to bailout wall street where CEO’s of big companies are paid millions of dollars and the working are left with no health care,etc.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 1:36 pm:
Thank heavens Trinidad is corrupt free…..lets all go there to live..ooooo we might be kidnapped though ehehehehe

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gtgyal82
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:51 pm:
good one evil eyes!!

John Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 3:51 pm:
Evil you are loosing it, you have to read what people write before you start throwing tantrums. Bing said all countries, Trinidad included in ALL. You need to get some rest or you might go silent like Mackydog. (You know if he was actually dragged to the dog pound?)

bing
In reply to the above comment on September 25th, 2008 12:25 pm:
Evileyes I never said that there isn’t corruption in trinidad. I said every country has levels of corruption be it east, west. Industralized and non industralized. Has the good book says “none good all have fallen short of god’s glory”.

evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 5:55 pm:
Jhonny I didnt see weh he put Trinidad….unless my evil eyes deceivin me….oh i c he mentioned US……oooops my fault…… I didnt know Trinidad is US……wow…….nah they cant drag me in de dog pund like macky….i too expensive to teck out de dog pound ehehehehe

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Uncle Joe
on September 24th, 2008 1:16 pm

So what else is new!! Poverty and greed tend to bring out the best and the worst in human nature.

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babydoll
on September 24th, 2008 1:41 pm

They are a lot of people on this blog that aired great points and some of them are fast a sleep or they are in la la land like Satish who said that the country made progress, may be they made it in your home, sorry to say that but you need to name some of the progress that the PPP made.

Mr. Jagdeo is a ashamed to admit to the survey that is out by the TransparenCy
International, he is fully aware that Guyana oh beautiful Guyana is very veryyyyyyy
corrupt and the bribes that most of the people take there is not funny. I do hope that this article would do some justice to the country and they would get a grip of themselves and get with the program to make some great improvments

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Faceboy
on September 24th, 2008 1:56 pm

Dear Editor, I know that you’ll recall me asking for the ‘Polograph Testing’ to be conducted at all levels of government in an attemp to rid Guyana of corruption or at lease have some form of control over it. I still strongly recomend this testing be done so that the next time the list is out, Guyana will no longer appear on it. THANK

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emergencyrelief
on September 24th, 2008 2:50 pm

For Guyana to be placed down at the bottom of the list of the most corrupted countries is no surprise when you look at the events occurring in the country over the past decade. government officials in bed with drug dealers and murders, the rampant incidences of child abuse, a health care system that is non existent, a higher education system that is manipulated by the powers that be, the lack of basic infrastructure, lack of legislation to protect the most vulnerable and marginalized groups, the ongoing brain drain of the most brilliant intellectuals and professionals and the list goes on and on - But what the heck - let’s get foreigners to come and invest in Guyana, let’s make Guyana the ultimate eco tourist destination, let’s be the lone one taking a stand on protecting the caribbean on matters of economic sustainability - it’s sounds totally illogical to me - but then when it comes to the affairs in Guyana - logic goes out the window!!!

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Debbie
on September 24th, 2008 4:18 pm

Did we need a report to tell us Guyana’s Officials are corrupt?
I dread doing legal business in Guyana, the amount of bribing one has to do makes me feel dirty and used at the end of the day. It seems like not a single person in a Government position will not accept or outright ask for a bribe in order for you to have a positive outcome in your affrairs.

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Joe Coxall
on September 24th, 2008 6:21 pm

Where does this guy who sits in Germany get his logic from, Poverty breeds crime in poor countries, so for the donor countries who are measuring their assistance by his benchmark, they have the cart before the horse.

Greed breeds crime in rich countries, where does the USA sit on his measurement scale.

This coming friday will be a day in infamy, it is the day when the bankers led by Hanky Panky Paulson, persuades, the US government to give away all of the assets of the American people, to the banking establishment, for free, so that they can live to rob another day.

Joe.

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evileyes
In reply to the above comment on September 24th, 2008 8:23 pm:
Joe dont enlighten them…..

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