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Woman detained after number found in ‘Skinny’s’ phone

-family says she has been beaten
A mother of five has been detained by the police after her number was discovered in a cellular phone found on Jermaine ‘Skinny’ Charles at the time of his death and relatives have alleged that she has been beaten.

Relatives of Lucy Simon say she was carted off in handcuffs from a home in Sophia on Thursday evening.
Stabroek News was told that two van loads of soldiers and policemen descended on the home and arrested the woman and a brother, who has since been released.

Relatives said that the woman has since stated that she has been shuttled between the East La Penitence Police Station and Eve Leary and that she has been beaten. Police officials could not be reached yesterday for comment.

Relatives say she has since been informed that her number was found in Charles’ phone. She received a call on her phone sometime on Thursday but was not aware that she was talking to a law officer and revealed where she was after the information was requested.
The woman operates a shop in Sophia and according to her relatives she cooks and sleeps in the shop with her children.

The lawmen descended on the shop, which was at the time being operated by her 11-year-old daughter, late Thursday afternoon. Her brother was sitting outside the shop at the time and when he was asked who he was he told them that he was just a customer. According to the family, the child was roughed up after saying she didn’t know where her mother was.

As they were taking the child from the shop she told them the man sitting outside was her uncle and they should ask him where her mother was. Relatives said that the lawmen then started to beat her brother and at the same time Simon, who was above the shop in her relative’s home peeped out of a window. The officers saw her and entered the home. Simon and her brother were then carted off to the station.

Relatives stated that that the woman said she met Charles after visiting a relative in the prison but that he had never communicated with her since his escape. She said the only communication she has ever had with Charles was when he requested a bottle of water when she visited the prison. She does not know how he got her phone number.

The woman’s relatives are very concerned about her well being but said they can ill afford a lawyer at this time. The woman is said to be in constant pain and still nurses her one-year-old daughter.

She has since stated that the police have informed her that she would be charged with harbouring criminals.
“They must be want her to provide information on the other criminals but she ent know nothing,” one relative said.

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113 Responses to “Woman detained after number found in ‘Skinny’s’ phone”

zainno
on September 1st, 2008 5:38 am

Another good jod GPF, you guys are showing your worth now.These are the ones need to be taken alive,tried and prosecuted. She ent know nothing eh!!!!!!!!!! She think she is smart and all others are stupid.

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Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 6:52 am:
hope you will say the when the Roger Khan trial starts next month.

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lambada
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:07 pm:
everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 7:06 am:
zainno…just shows how folish the SF were in not capturing the bandits alive.

THEY HAD ALL DE INFORMATION WID DEM. NOW THEY DEAD.

They CANNOT get any information from the poor woman unless they do the
usual, you know, sign dis !

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lambada
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:09 pm:
those criminals were not worth the tax payers money to be taken alive.

bluegrass
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:08 pm:
it was a cell phone

WB 41.207.162.5 not found
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 7:12 am:
IDIOT is this the way to act,did she call the number of skinny phone.
any body can get any body number.Things like these r just makeing things worse.
Have you ever been innocently charge i am sure not,Well i say pray to God not
and ask God to forgive you,He say’s judge not,Dont talk what yu dont know.

http://www.myspace.com/wyndavid

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decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:09 am:
Which God are you referring to or praying to?

I have seen the full gamut of ignorance displayed to have a false charge laid.

Sorry there was no God to appeal to but commonsense!

Now careful with your word use …idiot is not acceptable here.
You lucky dat slip by de Moderator!

We are a refined intelligent group who enjoy the thrust and parry of debate.

Come aboard!

sagga
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 8:44 am:
So because someone phone number is in a criminal’s cell phone warrants that type of abuse? This shows that the police force continues to act in a lawless manner,what good would it serve to even bother with attempting to detain anyone at this point when the actual criminal was killed. The police should have done all within their power to bring these men to justice and not have them killed, so it is not illegal to have anyone number in your phone I am responding to your mail I could be a criminal does that give anyone the right to assume that you are a criminal toocome on now you better get smart.

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mistic
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:16 am:
People do not defend anyone please that is what happen that why so many people lost their lives. She had to know skinny somebody would not just keep a stranger number in their phone for no reason at all, why did her brother lie, what are they scared of if they are innocent

Shirlene Daniels
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 1:42 pm:
I agree with you the police are being reactive instead of proactive, it was their job to gather inteligence on who the criminals were in contact with, now they are going to charge this woman for having the deceased number , what justice could be served from her arrest and conviction?

Fulleyes
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 2:46 pm:
What should she be tried and prosecuted for?
Eh

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zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 3:59 pm:
Hiding information about wanted men and obstructing juctice.Stop defending her ,she knows more than she is willing to tell. Read between the lines please.She met skinny in prison and give him a bottle of water, he end up with her phone number. Come on people be real for once.

Kim Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 7:21 pm:
listen to the story she gave, dont just judge her let the judge do the job. why dont you go back home and deal with the case.

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Harry Potta
In reply to the above comment on September 2nd, 2008 12:56 am:
These people like; “Fineman”, “Skinny”, “Blackie”, “Troyie”, “Brownie”,”Dicki” etc.etc…along with their many accomplaices, are not your ordinary common criminals. They’re NOT your “shady “Burgalars who enter your home by through the back door during the day when you’re away at work to steel your TV, VCR,
decanadianCarlVeecock
on September 1st, 2008 6:42 am

Here we go again !

The saga continues.

My heart goes out to this woman for I can well imagine
what they are going to do to her and her family.

Hopefully some lawyer comes forward pro bono
and hopefully the GHRA enters the affray.

Watch my words:
1. her bruises and swellings will be as a result of “resisting arrest”
2. she will be denied medical attention
3. she will be denied family visits
4. the police WILL REFUSE TO RELEASE ANY INFORMATION ON HER
5. and of course NO BAIL

You all hear me? JUST WATCH MY WORDS

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michael tannassee
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 8:00 am:
…. who died and made u custiodian of morals and values and to tell others what right from wrong ????????????????????????

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decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:12 am:
Simple my good sir michael tannassee…

MY TRAINING
MY STUDY
MY LEARNING
MY EXPERIENCE

AND OF COURSE COMMONSENSE!

What about you?

Kim Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 7:25 pm:
Michael he is right to define himself. I guess you cannot define yourself

BigK
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 8:36 am:
Carl, you need to chill out in France. This is not a Perry Mason episode. The Forces are doing what is necessary to gather the intelligence necessary to their investigation. If you believe that interrigations are a made up thing, then I have a bride to sell you.

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justice4all
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:50 am:
This kind of backwardness is evidence of why criminality abounds in Guyana. This kind of backwardness is evidence of what happens when prejudice supplants reason in judgement. This kind of backwardness is proof positive Guyana has entered that zone of governance symbiotic with apartheid South Africa.

Imagine, it this kind of backwardness that is making ministerial and other decisions in our country. A backwardness incapable of abstractly comprehending the meaning of Due Process and the rule of law. I pray for the day Guyana will emerge from the cave of cognition where mindsets like this obviously loiter

decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:04 am:
Thanks BigK. You right “interrigations are (not) a made up thing”.
You should have continued with “is nuff nuff licks to make you talk”.

Right?

Ah not chilling out cause de place hot hot hot, but de wine nice nice !

What is blinding you BigK is your past job and how you used to do it,
but now hat you are in a more civilised society, you see how much better
the guys in Guyana could improve.

Right now is sheer brutality and ignorance like the old days.

NO PROGRESS.

I will stand up for the rights of anyone for even the poor and ignorant, they too
have their say. People with power and amunition need to be circumspect
in their exercises and that seems to be ALWAYS ABSENT WITH THE JS.
Amazingly most of the commenters here fail to recognise this.

Now where is my glass ?

MR, WEST.BANK
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:24 am:
To gather what intelligence, the men with all the intelligence
done dead, dead man carry no tails BigK.

The joint service LAPS BIG TIME, they should have never killed the guys
bring them in alive to get all the intelligence that you need.

The Joint service had these guys in the palm of their hands for the
second (2nd) time.

Roger Khan lawyers never reported that he was beaten or
tortured, that is why he is spitting out everything in the Big Apple.

Stay tune Roger trial is next month BigK.

merv joseph
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 3:55 pm:
Carlveecack your “training, study, learing, experience and commonsense” should have told you that some phone number found on the cell phone of one of Guyana’s most wanted should be questioned. It is something the police has for a start. If she is can convince them that she got the number for the reasons her family is saying then they should let her go. This young lady is innocent until proven otherwise. But then I am wasting my time saying this because resoning is something most bloggers on this site have thrown through the window. It baffles me to understand what inhibits the understanding and simple reasoning of some. For me right now she is an innocent, hardworking shopkeeper with her phone number in the wrong person’s cell phone. Let the police do their job.

stabrok
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:24 am:
YEAH THE GRHA THAT U GUYS SAVIOUR

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stabruk
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:40 am:
Why don’t u go and represent her, as u deem it as injustice being done

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Kim Smith
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 7:32 pm:
You are not suppose to attack one’s opinion this is how a person feel so be it. Lets continue with an intelligent crowd and not wasteful writers.

coolieman
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:17 pm:
Carl maybe u and your GHRA can retain a lawyer for her

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UltimateW
In reply to the above comment on September 5th, 2008 4:32 pm:
Carl , you should be in the Guyana Police force , Crap you got it all worked out !

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Andy
on September 1st, 2008 6:46 am

If having the phone number of an alleged criminal in your cell phone is equated with harboring a criminal, then Ronald Gajraj, who had Roger Khan and Axel Williams’ phone numbers in his cell phone also harbored a drug baron/organized killer and a hired hitman! Has Ronald Gajraj ever been beaten and charged?

Did the police obtain a phone record from the woman’s cell phone carrier to determine whether the woman was in contact with Skinny after he was allowed to escape?

No one can or should condone criminality of any kind, but it is this douible standard that the government is applying against whom it determines is a criminal and who is not that could be used as fodder for people to resent government’s attitude.

Let the law be applied even-handedly!

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torbo
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 8:56 am:
WELL SAID ANDY THIS A ONESIDED REGIME.

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mackydog
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:50 am:
Gajraj was a minister in the government in charge of National Security who is entitled to have anyone’s telephone number and NOT be assumed to be in cohesion with crime, just like the Crime Chief, the Brigadier, or whoever in Guyana that is charged with the security of the country.
What will you say if you knew that O’Connor and Connelly, two of the most highest ranking FBI agents in NYC were involved (including having telephone numbers, etc.) with “Whitey”, a Mafia Cappo using him as an informant for the FBI during the 1960’s? Would you say that these FBI agents were involved with crime, Or J. Edgar Hoover who had EVERONE in the US info, including telephone numbers was involved with crime?
Well Lucy Simon was no Gajraj, O’Connor or J. Edgar Hoover.

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Natasha Boston
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:22 pm:
Ok, so you think Mr. Gajraj was using Roger Khan and the others to get information?

justice4all
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:53 am:
Andy where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise. Even that simple and logical analogy that you advance is is too complex for the cognition of the concretized mindsets offering up the kind of irrational reasonings in here. That is why Guyana is going backward. A country cannot move forward when the leadership does what it knows backward thinking will support.

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merv joseph
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 4:20 pm:
Mr JUSTICE4ALL, justice for all is the way it should be. All those big terminology, fancy words and sarcasm you have a penchant for doesn’t mean squat to the man who has lost a love one (and there are many) by the guns of these criminals. Or the person who has lost all his life earnings to them, nor the relatives of the many who were gunned down during the Roger Khan reign of terror, be they shady characters or law abiding citizens. Yes justice for all. Your constant warped ramblings do not say that.

truegt
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 3:51 pm:
roger was fighting criminals not harbouring them.and wha mek yall tink he gon sey anyting?

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UltimateW
In reply to the above comment on September 5th, 2008 4:30 pm:
Yes , he was fighting criminals , so why people want to stop a person that’s hunting criminals ? Can one of our well groomed intellectuals that knows everything about the government and police operations explain why they’re against this guys . apart of course his drug related issues.
Travis Kyte
on September 1st, 2008 6:53 am

well said Carl. Thats just what will happen

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torbo
on September 1st, 2008 7:13 am

i hope there was a female officer who search the woman and why these
so call police officer can not extract information without torturing these
suspects, its amazing the GHRA need to condem this action by the
joint services they are so unprofessional i hope some lawyer come to
the aid of this poor woman

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stabroek
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:16 am:
Here we go again GHRA

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supererro
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:57 pm:
DAMN RIGHT! When someone human and civil rights are violated, the GHRA need to be heard!

yvonne
In reply to the above comment on September 5th, 2008 8:37 am:
when someone come into ur house wipe out ur family including ur kids…and after that u call for the GHRA instead of justice. u gotta be crazy

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FUR-CONGAL
on September 1st, 2008 7:25 am

man u 100% right….but she get what she deserves ..if in fact she did harbour

skinny…cause de man cant get she # if she didnt give it to him..unless is the

prisioner who she went to see give him she #.

on the other hand…they should look out for “the politicians” who skinny and

fineman was working for!

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Xander
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:21 am:
There are a number of people who call my cell phone number whom I have never seen or known or given my number to.There was a particular guy who kept calling my number regularly,for about six months always asking for this name that is not me and I always had to tell him that he has a wrong number.Just Imagine that man in a situation like Skinny would it be right for me and my family to be harassed by the police.It only takes a few minutes for the police to get a record of calls to and from that number from the service provider.

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stabrok
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:30 am:
how often that occur,bet u a woman the man looking for, who in right sense will keep callling for 6 months and knowing that u r not the person.

clpuchet
In reply to the above comment on September 2nd, 2008 4:04 am:
that happen to me too. It stop when I called back the number and the gal father answer the phone I told him that I do 2 jobs and whenever, she call she does wake me up. when she realise that I am not the person she want to spk too. she does behave as though I was de wun calling and disturbing she. so I asked her father not to call my # any more because I would call her 3 and 4 o’clock in de morning while I am at work. suh it stop.

licky licky
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 3:24 pm:
have you ever thought that these criminals had a normal social life before all went wrong, if they looking to arrest people for harbouring why not arrest his child mother…she would have been the top of my list of suspects…anyway whenever anything like this happens innocent people have to start bracing themselves for some serious harrasment…so that the police can look good

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Annover
on September 1st, 2008 7:25 am

I think this woman need to come good with her story,how skinny get her phone #

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MR, WEST.BANK
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:44 am:
Xander made a perfect example of what is very possible.

Annover can you recall calling someone number and then you had to
to say to them sorry i have the wrong number ?, or did you ever had to
say to a caller sorry you have the wrong number ?.

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Melainie
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:39 am:
the criminals was already killed what is the is the point of harassing, the woman if the police of guyana had established enough trust with the people of guyana we would not have this situation going on right now and then we have people like you making the kind of comments when you know in the real real world that would not happen.

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zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 4:12 pm:
well said

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Satish
on September 1st, 2008 7:29 am

I’ENT KNOW NOTHING

This will be the recurring mantra chanted by any associates of the criminals.
The patent pack of lies told to the police even before the prisoner was taken away culminated with her assertion that Charles had guessed her mobile phone number and anyway, he had never phoned her!

An excellent posting by Blogger STEEL recently specifies things to do in cases like this:

Detailed search of her house and relations houses, the food shop the prisioner runs and any leads from those must be poured over by forensics even if such expertise has to be farmed out to the UK etc.
Take her finances and those of her near relations apart.
If they cannot explain with proof how they got their assets, then those assets must be stripped away.

Bank Accounts and Phone records must be pored over as if Guyana’s future depended on it and any claims of
“I’ent know nothing”
must automatically lead to assumption of covering up guilt.
Telling lies cannot be used as a legal defence.

Let them know it’s not easy spending money by criminal activities they might have condoned and encouraged.
People adore and welcome all the money their criminal friends and families bring. The long arm of the Law Organization must be shown to prevail. These associates may hide but once they have been dug up then justice must prevail. It must prevail in honour of all those viciously slaughtered men, women and children of Lusignan and Bartica.

How heartless it is for families and friends to accept booty knowing they did not work for it, when someone else stole and killed for it, and that someone else will never reach old age.
How heartless it is for these criminals’ wives and girlfriends to continue accepting blood money in exchange for the inevitable death of their criminal spouse.

They don’t care whether the criminals die, for they will simply find someone else and bury that previous memory forever.
The devil says, ” I’ll give you the easy money in your hands, but I want the head of your closest in MY HANDS.”

As Blogger STEEL continues in his great wisdom:
Damn it all!
The bad movies, the vulgar songs, the carrot in the eye advertisements forever shaping your thoughts and desires that society can never see such subtlety influencing them.
Society itself is to share the blame every time a new criminal is bred.

What are the churches and other moralists doing?

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Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:00 am:
I hope that the police will treat the president and some of his ministers the same way when information started to come out of the Roger khan trial. The same treatment should be metted out to those Government officials who keep dipping their hands into the public treasury. Just in passing, what happened to the investigation involving the Presidents brother-in-law who was terrorising his neighbours and then claimed that he was shooting aligators. I thought that this woman is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty or is it a case whereby it changes when certain persons are involved.

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lambada
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:21 pm:
from all your letters, i am convince you do support these criminals, you should be quiet and let the police do their job, she must be interrogated. at present she is innocent until proven, but she has alot of information that the police needs to catch the criminals that you seem to be supportive of.

Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 12:46 pm:
I am in no way supportive of the criminals and or their activities. I remember whilst living in Guyana a male keeps calling my phone and asking for a female and he was quite adamant that he had the right number. whenever the authorities here in the US decide to effect an arrest ,it is because they have real facts which can be supported and they certainly do not arest eleven year olds because they are not locating the childs parent. Lets hope that this never happen to you or anyone close to you.

Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 1:13 pm:
A member of fineman’s gang had threatened to shoot my mother because she observed him hiding a hand gun in our backyard and promptly called the police who came and removed it. Fineman himself threatened to kill me when i spoke in support of my mother. So how in the name of heaven can i be seen as supporting criminals whether it be fineman or anyone else. Quite frankly, i was happy when i got the news that he was killed. I drank a few beers and said aloud that God does not sleep. I am supporting the rule of law here. Presumed innocent until proven guilty. How many JS members haven’t we been reading about lately being involved in criminal activities. Does that make them guilty before the courts said whether or not they were? I spent six months in Guyana last year and i never spent more than ten minutes on any of the occasions that i would have visited my grandmother and other relatives who live two houses away from where fineman grew up in Agricola. All because of him threatening to kill me. So why again would be supportive of him and his gang. I refused to buy a house in Agricola that was virtually being sold to me for nothing all because of fineman and his gang.

john brown
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 2:52 pm:
Satish the trial of a man named Roger Khan will start soon and then you will hear all who got the drug money in Guyana.

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truegt
on September 1st, 2008 7:46 am

why would she hide upstairs avd why would her brother lie to the police if they havenothing to hide?the police doing the right thing by rounding all those who might have aided and abetted with these killers.i cant wait for the ones arming and encouraging them to be brought to justice.

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Naresh
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:51 am:
TRUEGT, don’t waste your time asking those questions. They make the evil look good (at least in their eyes). We all know what is happening. You can imagine what will happen if some of these bloggers are allowed in some way to associate with these criminals and their political supporters. But, it would not happen. The US would not allow another Taliban to fester.

Satish wrote elegantly on the mindset of some of these bloggers. This is the opposite of the American dream - where parents are encourage to work hard for their children and express their dissatisfaction in a responsible way. This is the Guyanese dream - where some parents encourage their children to thief from those who work hard and support criminals for a better life.

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supererro
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 1:15 pm:
“i cant wait for the ones arming and encouraging them to be brought to justice.”
You want the truth! I sincerely hope you can handle it, truegt.

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truegt
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 3:45 pm:
i already know the truth.been sayin for time to start lookin deeper at the politians.
j. brown
on September 1st, 2008 8:01 am

Why harrass the woman now, den don kill de man, why they don’t harrass Gilhouse, who committed attempted murder. dem can really tek advantage on poor people.

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Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:24 am:
Not just taking advantage on poor people. But when you are poor and belong to a certain ethnic group. Gajraj was not arrested and iterrogated when the phone records reveal those names. GILHUYS was involved in a shooting incident involving the use of a firearm for which no licence was current and when requested by the police to lodge same, he walked out of the police station and went his way. Gajraj acknowledge that he had regular contacts with axel wiliams up and until the time of his death. why was he not interrogated to give information on is phantom death squad. Instead, he was promoted.

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david pete
on September 1st, 2008 9:15 am

I am sure fineman and skinny dont know their bosses
since Blackie they should of known WHO E WORKS 4
since the jail break THEY SHOULD OF INVESTIGATED 2 FIND DA BOSS
This is a case where the inocent pays 4 the guilty
Roger Khan can also say a lot

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mackydog
on September 1st, 2008 9:33 am

Good work JS once again. You guys are really following your leads and is keeping the promise our Commish had made…WE WON’T LET UP…keep the pressure up on them, all of them who been harbouring and supporting Fineman, Skinny and the rest at large. We must catct them and stop this assault on our innocent peoples.

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Badlall
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 9:44 pm:
Dog macky Roger Khan is alleged to have been involved in the murder of 200 plus human beings. Did the govt and Gajraj not harbour and protect him why did the joint servjces not go after them(govt and gajraj) for harbouring and protecting Roger Khan?????

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bung bang
on September 1st, 2008 9:36 am

Like some of yall en read this story good, when the Js first got there they saw a young man and asked him who he be and he said a customer then the lil girl was asked where her mother is and she said she en know, then the lil girl said to asked the guy sitting there for her mother because thats her uncle, when the girl was then being taken away the mother suddenly looked through the window so who really covering for who, with all of this who ever said that she’ll admit having contact with skinny,interogation is no sunday school acitivity when u dealing wiht big ppl who r beniffiting from crime, but some a yall who leave comments on these articles only see the story one way once the JS is involved.

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Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 10:15 am:
what has the eleven year old done to warrant her being taken away by the JS. Isn’t she supposed to have an adult present when being questioned by the JS? Is it ok now for the JS to just take peoples children just like that? Why wasn’t the president’s sister and her children been taken away by the police when they weren’t able to locate him after a report was made against him. Do you remember what was Minister Robeson Ben attitude when his son was arrested recently.

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Melainie
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:48 am:
You ought to be ashame of your self trying to defend them with this stupid story you have to be a police , does being her brother gives him owner ship to anything his sister has he is a costumer,The child is eleven years old they have no right to speak to her with out her parents there and trying to her anywhere did she commit a crime you people are crazy .

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bung bang
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 2:03 pm:
I would’nt worry to argue with de two a yall because yall deh in a foreign land and a try dictate how things must go down here, partner dis is not AMERICA and y are’nt u guys shameful trying to defend skinny and them dutty life and for ur info melanie yes I’m a po po and i’m proud of being one Kyte me a leave the almighty to deal wiht jagdeo and robenson ben GOd said he’ll fight wickedness in high places not for me to do that me a fight CRIMINALS. De two a yall should visit western union and assist her with legal representation…BUNG BANG!

Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 5:35 pm:
You need to read my other comments which should enlighten u a bit. No one is trying to dictate how things should be done in Guyana, the Government is doing a very good job in that regard. That is why Mr. Freddie Kissoon keep discribing them as operating a dictatorship. I don’t like western union, their fees are somewhat high and the receiver still gets less. I love money gram.

Slickapuss
In reply to the above comment on September 4th, 2008 9:30 am:
bung bang whether or not you are a policeman I agree with you. Children can and are used as decoy for adults. Take for example in Africa children carry guns and use them, in Vietnam children led US army to their death many times. Why is a 11 year old child managing a shop, an uncle sitting in front of a shop and claims to be a customer, mother looks out the window when the racous involves her child, who is protecting the child could have been fine man or skinny taking away the child left to ten a shop by herself. We need to get real and stop knocking the police force and start trying to protect or little ones from seeing and being involved in all of these types of lawlessness. People make changes for the youths, stop making excuses for what should be and what happened. Look towards the future the youth of tommorrow. The adult of today is taimted.

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Melainie
In reply to the above comment on September 5th, 2008 12:53 pm:
yes mr bang bang i live in america so i guess you would say i dont know but you know what i lived in guyana , read my comment and understand it i was not defending skinny , having someone number in your phone is not proof enough for harbouring not even obstucting because until you have enough proof of anything again i say STOP HARRASING THE PEOPLE ,that kind of behavior is causing retaliation from the criminals and you know what it is not people like you that is suffering it is the innocent .When they decide to choose the police and soldier of guyana they need to be very careful because we get people like you, i have no problem with the police is the ones like you that have everything out of control . MY immediate family has police and joint service back ground and i am very proud of the forces and the work they do sometimes but is people like you that i am scared and fell sorry for .
Anne
on September 1st, 2008 10:17 am

It’s not fair that the daughter had to suffer at the hands of the police. After all she sounds innocent, and not knowing of her mother’s operations. She in my mind is only a child.

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stabroek
on September 1st, 2008 10:18 am

take them down

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supererro
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 1:24 pm:
BECAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR!!!!!!!!!

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sexygal
on September 1st, 2008 10:20 am

why u all so concern now about Mss Lucy

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decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:40 am:
What do you mean?

Do you want to replace her?

Fineman would have surely chased after such a name as yours!

Then you would have liked us to be sympathetic towards you.

Right?

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ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 2:21 pm:
What do you mean?

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ChocolateCCM
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 2:27 pm:
sexygal, that question is directed to you.
stabrok
on September 1st, 2008 10:21 am

Lucy was caught with her pants down

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decanadianCarlVeecock
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 11:59 am:
Please stabrok ! be respectful !

That never did happen.

NOW ( AH HAVE TO USE UPPERCASE LETTERS ) PLEASE REREAD THE
REPORT AND YOU WILL SEE THAT SHE WAS FULLY DRESSED.

Now behave yuself !

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Khufu
on September 1st, 2008 11:52 am

satish and zaino you guys are bias. I know no body posting in here is supporting criminals. People are supporting justice and the rule of law and you call us evil. Quite frankly people are relieved that fineman and skinny are gone. These guys would kill me you or anybody in a heartbeat wether black or indian if they felt you were a threat to them. Get off the bias one side band waggon and support what is right chickens always come home to roost.

Did you guys stop to think however remotely possible that this woman might be innocent or are you guys so prejudice that you cant see pass your noses.

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zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 5:47 pm:
No we are not bias we are calling it like it is, whan did you ever hear that a criminal or their accomplice give in willing. They always cry innocense or ignorance to the fact. Remember these savages had supporters that aided and abetted them. These supporters has to be found trisd and punished. Finding them has to start from somewhere ,they are not going to come in voluntarily.

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lambada
on September 1st, 2008 12:28 pm

come on lucy make all guyanese proud of you, let the JS knows what you knows, it is worth to tell the truth, GOD WILL BE AT YOU SIDE TO FORGIVE YOU.

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roar
on September 1st, 2008 12:41 pm

now u hearing every body innocent minu i am not saying they guilty but this always happen nobody never give de criminals nothing they get all dem supply from de sky even fatman and meatman innocent next u gonna hear kurbie saying dem a freedom fighter and dem na do nothing wrong and de family gonna say how dem chap dis was de bread winner for de home.i want some of rouge element to reply

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soloman
on September 1st, 2008 2:12 pm

well i agree with the law man for one reason ,maybe they fine the phone when fine man an skinny was kill an the numbers keep comming an comming . but i dont agree with to question the child , but this is good in my home contry,for the law man to question kids.becarefull of what u all are building , ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now if you go an call the number why go an harrased the person anybody can get any one phone number ,maybe it happen in the prison the woman says she new him in prison when she visit someone,maybe that some call her . the police need to stop harrased the public an get an better way to deal with their job,if they have want all the imformation ,they had the mens an they kill them now they acting all hip up

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john brown
on September 1st, 2008 2:49 pm

I don’t know when some people will start putting on their thinking cap. I have had people called me on many occasions and never knew them but they had my cell phone number. it is possible to give one person your number and they inadvertently loose it and people with bad intentions or wickedly use your number to mislead someone. not every wrong number you dial you immediately remove it from your phone and by not doing that , you sometimes can forget completey to delete it. some of you need to think before you type.

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DUDE
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 4:25 pm:
John Brown, you talikin’ bout putting on thinking cap. You stupid or wuh? The lady number was stored in the phone’s address book. It wasn’t a wrang number (a call that was rec’d). Put on yuh thinking cap, banna…why she run and hide if she na gat nothing fuh hide. Why she brother misled da police about e identity. Is this obstruction of justice. I guess yuk gon sey how they fraid of the police, but is only people with certain kind a character are harrassed. you stupid or wuh?

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zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 5:56 pm:
dude ,good response, I’m with you man.

zainno
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 5:54 pm:
Lame! lame! lame! indeed. As the old saying goes “facts don’t need fork stick to keep it up”.

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Fulleyes
on September 1st, 2008 2:58 pm

Food for thought I have it on good authority that “Fineman” commited suicide.
He had vowed never to be taken out. Seon Grant was the one that ratted them out for the 50million, but never lived to get it. They knew the JS were closing in on them so he took his own life, maybe they can get credit for killing skinny but not Rondell….

I reat my case….

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Travis Kyte
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 5:51 pm:
I surely agree with you fulleyes.

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Roger
In reply to the above comment on September 2nd, 2008 4:06 am:
Hey travis, man; I am sure you must have some interesting stories to tell of fineman/skinny and other gang members. Wish I could hear some!!!
popeoplefedup
on September 1st, 2008 3:17 pm

I believe in ethical retribution, and for all those people who died in Lusignan and Bartica, I say apprehend and impose all punishment requisite on all accomplices of the beasts who were justifiably slaughtered.

Suddenly the Lucys and other “innocent” repositories of wanted men numbers are crying injustice?

I say give them what is due to them.

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Candee
on September 1st, 2008 3:20 pm

George Bush is sending the Water Boarders Jagdeo is too harsh on these poor souls.

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ALL_GT
on September 1st, 2008 3:24 pm

OK guys, the police are just doing their job. However if the police want information on the gang and all the weapons stolen and how, why the heck do they not capture one of these guys alive. Unless, the information extracted from them would implicate some known individual.

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DUDE
In reply to the above comment on September 1st, 2008 4:29 pm:
Yoh stupid or wuh? Who is surrendering? How is the police supposed to bring em in alive when he gat AK47s and shooting? You should join de police force if you suh smart.

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elijah
on September 1st, 2008 3:27 pm

It’s good they make an arrest to continue the investigation on the criminal gangs…but they need to be more professional instead of …..brute force and ignorance…especially the way they rough up the 11 year old girl….do u know that could have a negative influence on the kids life….

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lily
on September 1st, 2008 5:10 pm

the police wanted someone wid info i dont agree wid them rough up the people
cause if i was a police and i rough up they kids or they wife they wuda be angry
wid me too the cuda ask questions wid out beatening her or her family

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analysis
on September 1st, 2008 6:47 pm

If ya keep de criminals alive they may start talking like RK doing so when they finally get catch (as if they didn’t know where they were all this time) they have to mek sure that they kill dem dead, cause….dead men tell no tales.

Rememba blackie aka Linden London and Bovell?

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Slicker
on September 1st, 2008 7:14 pm

We all have friends and yet we don’t know what they do when the’re out there , this woman claims she doesn’t know this skinny ok fine, there will be doubts , lets start from the top again , who did she went to visit in jail ? he should be questioned too as well and why whould she collect a contact no# from someone who is in jail ? don’t she read the news she must know that he was wanted for alot of murders at that time why would she collect a no# from him .. skinny was later an escapee this should have be another alert to her , from then on she should already deleted that no# , then skinny got shot dead and she still have the no# lolz .. get real people does she thinks people are stupid like she is , they should trace the other no#s too , that may lead the J/S to more of them its comonsense .

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good guy
on September 1st, 2008 7:43 pm

She should be interogated and prosecuted once found guilty of harbouring a criminal .

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ink09
on September 1st, 2008 9:09 pm

When I receive my cellphone bill at the end of the month there is a page which lists all the calls sent/received, all the numbers which were called/received. All the Guyana police has to do is contact GT&T or Digicel and have them provide all the records for this woman’s cellphone. See how many times skinny called her and how many times she called him. See how long the phone calls lasted and see on what date he contacted her.

Now, some of you are claiming that you’ve gotten calls from strange men over a period of months. Men who call, find out it’s the wrong number, and still continue calling. Skinny escaped from jail about a month back…is any sane person expected to believe that skinny had enough time on his hands to call this woman just for fun? The police were looking for him - are we expected to believe that skinny actually had time to play games with this woman? This woman is innocent until proven guilty, but I have a belief that she was a bridge between fineman and skinny. Someone had to be the middleman (or woman) in their little reunion.

The fineman gang is not only guilty of murdering innocent Guyanese in Lusignan and Bartica, but also in Agricola, McDoom, Eccles, and Buxton. Anyone who even knew about the whereabouts of these men and failed to report it to the police are deemed as accomplices. No matter how you twist it or turn it, that person(s) is guilty and should face the full force of the law (that ‘full force of the law’ is a joke in Guyana, but it should be felt, nonetheless).

For all the folks who felt that the police should have negotiated with these men and taken them alive. You need to realize that the police can only operate based on their training. These men don’t have an ounce of experience when it comes to negotiating with criminals and talking them down; aside from what they see on TV. So, you can’t blame a child for something he wasn’t taught.

justice4all, your words are always greatly appreciated. In the future, instead of using such big words with little meaning…try using smaller ones which actually contain some sense. In my opinion, you are a fellow who got a lil education and now you’re trying to display it for all of us to see. Basically, a show-off. Keep it up, it’s having the opposite effect, my friend.

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carese
In reply to the above comment on September 2nd, 2008 12:22 am:
I AGREE WITH INK09 1OO% LET THE POLICE GET A PRINT OUT FROM THE CELL PHONE COMPANY, BUT FOR ALL U KNOW THE PHONES MIGHT HAVE BEEN BLOCK, BUT SKINNY CANT JUST GET THIS WOMAN NUMBER OUT OF THE BLUES, THEY HAD TO HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION AFTER HE ESCAPE FORM PRISON, MAYBE FOR ALL U KNOW SHE WAS THE ONE SUPPLYING THEM WITH FOOD STUFF, SHE DID SAY THAT SHE GIVE HIM A BOTTLE OF WATER WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON.

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roar
on September 1st, 2008 9:45 pm

i can stand dis wen i see ppl like khufu takin prejudice,john brown takin tink b 4 u type,candee takin police 2 harsh and all gt takin about capture alive well i cannot help saying dis d 4 of u should ago wear dat uniform and see wat it takes den u all gonna stop cry fowl u see all 4 of dem flying us flag n even in de us wen dem same ppl da comit any crime and de police arrest dem guess wat ? dem a play de de race card.

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K. R.
on September 1st, 2008 10:02 pm

every one miss the point, skinny was a criminal and did not have a cell phone in prison, i am 100% sure he obtain it after he had escape.

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Roger
In reply to the above comment on September 2nd, 2008 3:58 am:
good point/well said. Don’t know what happened with the mind of some on this list/blog.

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michael alexander
on September 1st, 2008 11:25 pm

sorry for this poor girl , since when a phone number is a crime still not acting as detectives.

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RogerNotKhan
on September 1st, 2008 11:25 pm

We need to leave Guyana to the backwards people that run it.
The JS is suppose to protect and serve the CITIZENS of a country, but in Guyana they serve the GOG at all costs. No one in the JS can make an independent decision, they all do what they are told to do by the GOG.
Gilhuys shoots a POLICEMAN and Henry Greene cannot say a word about it.
The Minister fires he gun at a man and nothing in done about it.
The cricketer shoots a POLICEMAN and nothing is done about it.
Accept it folks, Guyana in the land of LAWLESSNESS. It’s a hell hole that cannot come back and will always be the laughing stock of the Caribbean.
Who killed Axel Williams, Ronald Wadell, the owner of NABI and Sons, Donald Allison, Davenda Persaud, Nineties and a few hundreds more……. why can’t the JS solve some of those crimes?
LAWLESSNESS ….
I hope GOD has a special place for the all of them …

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Roger
on September 2nd, 2008 3:53 am

Hey guys,
indeed some of your comments are on the ball, while some I would consider silly. Some ask why did this woman brother lied, and that was the first question that cross my mind. Some one also asked a good question when this woman was visiting in prison, didn’t she know at the time it was skinny, and that bloger was smart to note that skinny did not have cell while e was n prison. So when??? and how??? Some f you are not taking n to consideration the fact that f the police did not try to take the child, they may not have known this guy was her uncle! So, when you write, think. When the police don’t deliver, we call them all kinds of names. If this woan know some thing, she may give hint that may ed to other gang members. We all know much of these guys in the GPF are not educated PPL, and they would do things the best ay they know. So, if we want the gang to be rid of, we must try what method is necessary; even if some might get hurt in the process. Everything cmes with sacrifice.

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George
on September 2nd, 2008 10:03 am

Telephone contacts are very important to Criminals.No need to go into details.Once the Police act intelligently they will be able to round up those still at large.There may be a net work.Fine Man And Skinny had to get good information,to roam,Berbice River,Bartica,Buxton,East Bank Demerara,and other Places.The calls can be easily traced.Be patient Joint Services there are More Cell Phone Messages.Keep up the Good Work.

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UltimateW
on September 5th, 2008 4:22 pm

They have the right to go after her and questioned her , considering having her number on his phone and having some form of conversation in the prison , leading up to her giving him water. I can understand the police being rough with her , they never do things the right way , except of course shooting the criminals instead of getting them alive for questioning. So if she’s an accomplice of have info. then they have to extract that info. at any cost . Remember the lives of the guyanese public is at risk here , info. is vital in preventing another Lusignan or Bartica . Fine man and his confederates might be dead but there are others just waiting to follow in his footsteps. God blass Guyana.

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